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The 2022 Offseason Thread
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rmcjacket23
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Harbaugh basically said it would normally require about 3 weeks of actual practice, not conditioning, to be ready to go. Not set in stone, but that was his baseline. And it was in the context of both Stanley and Bowser not practicing yet. And we're under the 3 week mark before season starts.
So yes, I'd say unlikely for week 1. I think Bowser going on PUP to start makes plenty of sense, but again, with Stanley, its more cloudy.
I'm not the pessimist that says his career is finished, but the guy also hasn't done a legit team practice in forever. Until that happens, its a write off for me.
All_black_everything
Pro Bowler
Haha this was literally the most exciting yet stressful moment. I loved it. Part of me wanted him to just go down with the ball but the other part wanted to live on the edge lol
UPennChem
Hall of Famer
I hear you but only one thing confuses me. Harbs gave injury updates on all of Ronnie, Tyus, and Gus. With Gus he was very clear that he was slower to come along. For the other two he explicitly stated that from what the doctors have seen that this week is "on schedule" or whatever that means. Like I find that confusing. What was hypothesized to be good to go by this week that in both of their cases is not? Or maybe, this is that approximate 3 week timeline and it was just a back of the envelope comment that we hoped would be true.
To me if they're not out there this week, the only way that makes sense is if Harbs has largely been talking out of his ass about their injuries. That's not to say they can't start practicing soon, but it doesn't make a lot of sense otherwise
hmmmm, with these comments it certainly seems like he's going to be making the team.
no way they rush either of them back, but I don't think Bowser starts the season on PUP.
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they're conditioning right now to get into football shape - at this point they're both clearly close enough with their rehab/recovery that once their conditioning is in the right place then they'll be able to practice and then play
it was always said that on schedule meant some time this week - and all signs had been pointing to the fact that they could be ready - but harbs has also talked about that 3 week ramp up period for a while too
i would not be surprised to see both of them not back this week, be back next week and start ramping up and maybe tyus can play a few snaps on a pitch count (if absolutely necessary) and ronnie stays in street clothes for week 1 because we dont rotate OL and he wont be ready to play a full complement of snaps
UPennChem
Hall of Famer
If this is the case then for all intents and purposes the projections were close enough and these guys are pretty healthy. Maybe the each miss one to two games but they'll be playing the early in the season.
I am starting to think that maybe we just keep 5 ILBs knowing that Harrison can/will slide to OLB for the time being. Sounds great to keep Means and/or Hayes but if they aren't getting the job done...
UPennChem
Hall of Famer
Ross makes this team and for exactly this reason. You don't keep Means, you get Harrison on the field more while you wait for Ojabo.
Willbacker
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Gotta agree with this. Hopefully they give Ross a chance at the beginning of the game against guys that are going to make the team. As for passrushing we gonna see more safety looks with Clark and Hamilton blitzing I believe and I've always argued Queen should blitz a hell of a lot more.
UPennChem
Hall of Famer
QB
Lamar, Snoop
RB
Dobbins, Davis, Hill, Badie
FB
Ricard
WR
Bate, Proche, Duv, DRob, Tylan
TE
Mark, Boyle, Likely, Kolar
OL
Stanley, James, Powers, Tyree, Linderbaum, Mekari, Zeitler, Cleveland, Moses, Faalele
26 on offense with Kolar immediately going to IR
DL
Calais, Pierce, Madabuike, Urban, Jones, Washington
OLB
Houston, Oweh, Hayes, Bowser, Ojabo
ILB
Bynes, Queen, Harrison, Welch, Ross
CB
Marlon, Marcus, Stephens, Fuller, JAD, Pepe
S
Williams, Chuck, Kyle, Geno, TJ
27 on defense with Ojabo going right to IR
New Wolfpack
Stout
Tuck
Moore
3
That means you're 3 over right here which honestly not great. You can ask TJ to wait for the spot to open, but what about your other two spots? Maybe Urban? Maybe Welch doesn't make it. Maybe Hill doesn't make it.
Lamar, Snoop
RB
Dobbins, Davis, Hill, Badie
FB
Ricard
WR
Bate, Proche, Duv, DRob, Tylan
TE
Mark, Boyle, Likely, Kolar
OL
Stanley, James, Powers, Tyree, Linderbaum, Mekari, Zeitler, Cleveland, Moses, Faalele
26 on offense with Kolar immediately going to IR
DL
Calais, Pierce, Madabuike, Urban, Jones, Washington
OLB
Houston, Oweh, Hayes, Bowser, Ojabo
ILB
Bynes, Queen, Harrison, Welch, Ross
CB
Marlon, Marcus, Stephens, Fuller, JAD, Pepe
S
Williams, Chuck, Kyle, Geno, TJ
27 on defense with Ojabo going right to IR
New Wolfpack
Stout
Tuck
Moore
3
That means you're 3 over right here which honestly not great. You can ask TJ to wait for the spot to open, but what about your other two spots? Maybe Urban? Maybe Welch doesn't make it. Maybe Hill doesn't make it.
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I just want adarius to make the team
UPennChem
Hall of Famer
He's gonna be on the PS I think. Ultimately he's probably too far behind given the injuries.
ndub
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He'll be picked up by someone else, but who cares. We have too many safeties as is
UPennChem
Hall of Famer
I mean he went undrafted, was hurt all last year, was hurt basically this whole offseason, and has played like 10 snaps of preseason where one of them he gave up a TD. I'd be shocked if someone picks him up.
rmcjacket23
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I can't say who would be out, but from this breakdown, I don't see a) us keeping 5 RBs (including Ricard), b) us keeping 5 ILBs and c) us keeping 5 safeties.
Agree that it might end up that way, but only after guys like Ojabo and Kolar probably going to IR. I'm not entirely sold that TJ makes this team at all, but I could be wrong. He's pretty clearly the 5th safety, which makes him basically just a ST player. Obviously love the guy, but I suspect he gets cut and maybe the Ravens give him a chance to get a better spot elsewhere. Maybe he's a guy that's brought back quickly, I don't know.
I'd be pretty surprised to see 4 RBs though, 5 if you include Ricard. I know Hill has gotten a lot of love this offseason, but I think he'll be gone.
Also could be wrong about this, and I don't feel like looking it up at the moment, but feels like our "norm" is 5 Dlineman. Could be because we've not had this much talent and arguably depth there in awhile, but 6 seems pretty heavy there as well. Would think either Urban or Washington is the odd man out there. Also a tough spot, because Jones figures to miss probably the first week or two, but I guess unlikely to start on IR, so you'll probably need a PS call up to fill his spot for first couple weeks.
I think he's headed to the practice squad, but I've always liked him and his playmaking ability.
UPennChem
Hall of Famer
Bro I totally agree. I've been saying for a long time now, there's too much defensive depth on this team to be carrying 4 RBs plus Ricard.
If you cut Hill, TJ, and Welch you're not really fretting. Then you can bring back TJ and Welch if you'd like after IRs.
Why would you not keep 4 RBs right now? Dobbins may or may not be full go and if something happens, we’re in the same situation we were last year. I think it’s almost a given that we’re starting with 4. And it’s not hard to do it either