i wonder if this has only happened because it's become very obvious from insiders the last few days that Lamar's not playing
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Lamar Jackson
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i wonder if this has only happened because it's become very obvious from insiders the last few days that Lamar's not playing
Grim
Ravens Ring of Honor
So wait a second. The Ravens have said numerous times they don’t speak on injuries for various reasons but those include:
1. It’s the player’s business
2. I’m sure competitive reasons
So knowing this why would we think Harbaugh or the Ravens would speak out on Lamar’s injury? I know for a fact Harbaugh has said injuries are the player’s business and he doesn’t put stuff out there. I think and assume Lamar:
1. Wants to play football for the Ravens
2. Wanted to be back ASAP
3. Was hopeful he would return before or at the playoffs
4. Realizing now that may not be likely due to his recovery
This smells more like maybe Lamar wanted to keep things tight lipped on his injury and hoped to rehab and come back for a run but it didn’t work out that way. Now because the decision was with him always anyway he decided to speak out on it.
1. It’s the player’s business
2. I’m sure competitive reasons
So knowing this why would we think Harbaugh or the Ravens would speak out on Lamar’s injury? I know for a fact Harbaugh has said injuries are the player’s business and he doesn’t put stuff out there. I think and assume Lamar:
1. Wants to play football for the Ravens
2. Wanted to be back ASAP
3. Was hopeful he would return before or at the playoffs
4. Realizing now that may not be likely due to his recovery
This smells more like maybe Lamar wanted to keep things tight lipped on his injury and hoped to rehab and come back for a run but it didn’t work out that way. Now because the decision was with him always anyway he decided to speak out on it.
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
There is no competitive advantage in feeding a smear campaign, or at the very least not doing anything to stop it, against your best player. It is absolutely appalling how they handled this.
Grim
Ravens Ring of Honor
Also as good as Lamar is why would some team trade the farm for Lamar when he is hurt and had a season ending injury? That’s the kind of dumb move a franchise does. The only way a team does it is if the Ravens sell very low. I’m not sure why I would do that if I am the Ravens.
Only way Lamar leaves is if he wants it and I’m not convinced of that.
Only way Lamar leaves is if he wants it and I’m not convinced of that.
but where was the smear campaign?
mostly just ravens fans on the internet who are looking to confirm their own biases who picked up every little thing and ran with it
there were the guys talking about contract stuff but not enough that it was a big deal - and they also got shut down
Sandtown
Pro Bowler
I'm not sure if John Harbaugh being straightforward about LJ injury makes anything better if the idea is to have some form of competitive advantage. I think as a head coach I would rather want my opposing team studying tape of a possibly of a star like LJ playing then studying tape on Tyler Huntley for most of the week.The Ravens have been a very private organization for years and don't operate like other teams do. I definitely understand why they wanted to keep things quiet. I even understand why a lie would have been told to Rich Eisen as well.
LJ a pretty competitive guy and I don't think he would ever want to miss a playoff game especially if his team is in the playoffs. He's very engage with social media and has a lot of fans that really really really like or love him. I can see why he would want to share why he may not be playing in a game against a divisional rival in the playoffs. Alot of people were expecting him to play this Sunday coming up but truthfully he probably should have kept that information to himself though.
Your theory makes no sense though. If this was a team that wanted to trade Lamar, they wouldn't launch this "smear campaign" because that in theory would make his trade value go down. Painting him as lazy, aloof, whatever is far more damaging than him simply being hurt.
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
I'm not saying they launched it but they definitely kept feeding it by never telling how serious the injury is.
Or maybe it's just magnified because it's Lamar. When are they ever upfront about an injury unless it's season ending?
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
All over the media and internet - if you really care about your future long term investment, you don't give anybody any ammunition. regardless of who is blabbering.
Sandtown
Pro Bowler
Also this may be one of those clear signs why LJ may needa agent because honestly why would you post that you have a grade 2 borderline grade 3 PCL strain on Twitter during a contract year. This injury may possibly require surgery which may take up to 6 to 10 months to heal . Like if anything The Ravens was protecting his value or his best interest for not even being straightforward about this. I honestly hope all this is fake and LJ actually plays on Sunday but it is what is
Look at Sizzle being the voice of reason. Maybe you really are a changed man.
But yeah the reality is probably somewhere in the middle. I have my doubts that the Ravens and Lamar's team are totally in sync, but I also don't see how reaching to the extremes is considered plausible by some.
Davesta
Ravens Ring of Honor
Ray Lewis should’ve hooked him up with some antler spray.
Take down that statue! He ain’t down for the set!
Grim
Ravens Ring of Honor
Nobody know what’s up with this man’s knee besides what he said and that he’s missed games. Nobody knows if he wants out of Baltimore or not. I’m sure we’ll find out soon but this wouldn’t be the first time the Ravens did a bad job on injury PR
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
They had to quash all the bullshit about Lamar immediately. They chose to let Preston's bullshit hang around for 2 weeks before they did anything. And I'm not even sure Sun and Preston retracted on Ravens' request.
Hardly anyone knew Preston even made that statement because it was hidden in a Q&A. It ignited a couple of weeks later and it got squashed real quick.
redrum52
Hall of Famer
I was wrong... you're zones burner account.
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
Look at this troll
With all of this, I will say that it's another botched PR job and it's been downhill ever since Byrne left. I know it's an organizational thought process that the less info that's out there, the better off you are. But sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and be forthright. It's why this conversation leans so heavy to the extremes. It's never easy to prognosticate injury timelines, but I can imagine this goes significantly better if they have Harbaugh give some detail and say they don't have a timeline vs. the choice to consistently just say that he doesn't know.