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Lamar Jackson

UPennChem

Hall of Famer
Well emotionally I agree with you but looking at it from a numbers standpoint always helps calm me down at seasons end. With 32 teams each team has a baseline 3% chance of winning. Lots of factors , random or controlled, raise or lower that but it helps put things into perspective…. Also that loss to the Chiefs didn’t take away the fun you had watching the boys drop 52 on the dolphins or stomp the 49ers on MNF. My second favorite season to date is still one of the most painful in 2008….
For sure that's a reasonable take. My only rebuttal is although a blind probability is 3%, obviously not all teams are created equal.

The point about the dolphins or 49ers is spot on.
 

drjohnnyfever

Pro Bowler
It does when they fail year after year after year for a decade or 2 when they had legitimate opportunities.

If you're the lions of the last 2 decades that's one thing. You're incompetent and perenially bad. But if you're us, where we should really have competed for like 3 superbowls in just the last 10 years and you've haven't even made it to 1, it's like what's going on?

There's really no good reason we aren't more successful. And that doesn't even mean won superbowls. But even making superbowls and making AFC championship in years we didn't.
This! If you're good you're expected to win. When you don't you're questioned.

Regarding teams like Dan Marino's Dolphins, I might be wrong, but I don't remember them ever being "the team to beat." Unlike us several times since Lamar has been the starter. To me, that's different about some of those great QB's that never won a SB. McNabb is more similar to our Lamar experience. For some reason, they could not overcome the NFCC, until they did and then they still faced a Pats team that was dynastic. That happens. Hitting a speed bump and slowing to a crawl unable to find the gas pedal when in the Playoffs does not engender hope. Again, whether its the qb, the coaching, the other team - it's just frustrating. If you're as good as you say, you win. If you don't, you're poseurs.
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
Well emotionally I agree with you but looking at it from a numbers standpoint always helps calm me down at seasons end. With 32 teams each team has a baseline 3% chance of winning. Lots of factors , random or controlled, raise or lower that but it helps put things into perspective…. Also that loss to the Chiefs didn’t take away the fun you had watching the boys drop 52 on the dolphins or stomp the 49ers on MNF. My second favorite season to date is still one of the most painful in 2008….
08? That was just awesome seeing our first franchise qb make it to the conference championship, beat the 1 seed, and a shit ton of turnovers.
 

BoredMarine13

Ravens Ring of Honor
08? That was just awesome seeing our first franchise qb make it to the conference championship, beat the 1 seed, and a shit ton of turnovers.
Loved 08 , ton of fun and really wild moments with Ed…. But a 3 game sweep by Steelers was brutal back when the rivalry really mattered
 

OURavensFan

Ravens Ring of Honor
Yea like it or not Lamar is currently on the same story arc as Dan Marino, SteveMcNair, McNabb, Dan Fouts, Jim Kelly ,Phillip Rivers etc etc …. Just really talented guys that couldn’t get over the hump…. Positive news is he’s got time and he’s in a well run organization. End of the day though none of the stats or MVPs really matter to the outside world without a SB. I think Ravens fans will have a different perspective , but not the rest of the league.
It’s just funny to me when Flacco had a 10-4 playoff record and Super Bowl MVP he still wasn’t sucked off the way some other current QBs are because that was small sample size. Now MVPs don’t mean anything anymore
 

Deebo813

Hall of Famer
It’s just funny to me when Flacco had a 10-4 playoff record and Super Bowl MVP he still wasn’t sucked off the way some other current QBs are because that was small sample size. Now MVPs don’t mean anything anymore
Mvps dont mean anything when you not winning the big games.. its cool at first but once you starting winning multiple mvps yet keep getting bounced in playoffs every year with a 2-6 record, it makes you look bad
 

Tank

Hall of Famer
Mvps dont mean anything when you not winning the big games.. its cool at first but once you starting winning multiple mvps yet keep getting bounced in playoffs every year with a 2-6 record, it makes you look bad
I don't think it goes as far as winning the big games, but more so performing up to and beyond your regular season form. And winners generally play their best in the most meaningful games.
 

BoredMarine13

Ravens Ring of Honor
winners generally play their best in the most meaningful games.
Which is super frustrating because Lamar does play well in big games during the regular season, just can’t figure it out during the playoffs.
 

JAAM

Hall of Famer
Don’t read the YouTube comments on Lamar’s #2 NFL video. The booty hurt Bills/Cowboys/Niners fans are in a total circle-jerk.
 

Deebo813

Hall of Famer
I don't think it goes as far as winning the big games, but more so performing up to and beyond your regular season form. And winners generally play their best in the most meaningful games.
Tbh all he has to do is play at regular season form in playoffs and we win.. he doesnt do that and thats also the problem.
 
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