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Lamar Jackson
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BoredMarine13
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Are we a run heavy offense? Take away Lamar’s designed runs and I’m curious what the numbers look like on the year. Felt like we were passing a lot , especially earlier in the year with Bateman healthy and 1/2 backs out
The Ravens certainly are a bit skewed by having Lamar run as much as he does, but they're a bottom of the barrel team in pass attempts. They're damn near 50-50 on the year, but Lamar does factor into that.
gtalk12
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Jackson is the reason we have looked the way we have looked for the better part of years.
The running stats are inflated due to his abilities.
Jackson has 755 rush yards. As a team we have 1790.
He is currently sitting at 11th in the league in rushing. Take him out? Ravens fall from 3rd in rushing down to 29th in the league.
29th........................
Lamar is averaging 6.8 YAC and the team is averaging 5.3 YAC. Which means if you take Lamar out of the equation we are really averaging 4.5 YAC.
The running stats are inflated due to his abilities.
Jackson has 755 rush yards. As a team we have 1790.
He is currently sitting at 11th in the league in rushing. Take him out? Ravens fall from 3rd in rushing down to 29th in the league.
29th........................
Lamar is averaging 6.8 YAC and the team is averaging 5.3 YAC. Which means if you take Lamar out of the equation we are really averaging 4.5 YAC.
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Dom McRaven
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And here we go......
I think there’s some level of merit to this but also have to realize it’s a read based running game. The RBs would be getting the ball a whole hell of a lot more if Lamar wasn’t making some of those decisions himself. He’s an important cog but taking him out of the equation and declaring that reality isn’t realistic.
gtalk12
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wasn't it stated before on these boards that he was not running as much and picking and choosing when to go?
NaturalBornHitters
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Lamar is the one reaching on this. We all know what eat a dick means. Come on Lamar lol
As far as Lamar's comments go, you all would not have lasted in a CoD or Gears of War lobby on XBOX 360 back in the day.
Dom McRaven
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I don't think "eat a dick" means anything homophobic IMO. I've heard "suck my dick" been used towards men and women.
OURavensFan
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People are trying to say he implied that all the guy did was eat dicks his whole life, never played on the field. Honestly who gives a shit, his overall point stands even if it was bad judgement to even reply
NaturalBornHitters
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Well with how he snapped at the dude for a little criticism and ended his tweet by telling another dude to eat a dick. Just in that context, it doesn't sound right tbh. Lamar should of watched that toothpaste container video
SaltyDog
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He dropped a 60 yard dime on DJ yesterday. It was a beautiful thing, but doing it consistently has been an issue.
JoeyFlex5
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Eat a dick just means eat a dick
Tank
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Not like he said eat a whole bag. Right? lol
rmcjacket23
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Would change it considerably.
Main reason why teams love like 5-6 year deals for franchise QBs is that they can back load the cap hits because a) the cap keeps increasing and b) once the cap hit gets large, they'll just do another extension to reduce it. Once you've got a franchise QB, you can basically play that game for like 10-15 years, and the only time you'll really be close to "cap hell" is at the very end of their career, and then its only one year.
With fully GTD contracts, and with shorter periods, there's far less cap maneuverability. Basically every year when you hear a team "converts salary to bonus to create cap space" for a high end QB, you won't hear that anymore, because its pointless. The only way to create significant cap space on a player with like a 2-3 year deal is to either cut them or extend them. Cutting isn't an option when the contract is fully GTD, so basically it'll just turn into a potential like 1-2 year contract renegotiation over and over and over again until one party says they're done with the other.
As an example:
Contract 1: Lamar signs a 3 year, $150M, fully GTD contract
Contract 2: Lamar signs a 6 year, $300M contract, with $150M guaranteed.
Player would likely prefer Contract 1. Team would prefer Contract 2 by a gigantic margin. Total money is greater in deal 2 and GTD money is the same for the player, but contract 2 offers a TON more cap flexibility for the franchise.
rmcjacket23
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They're also not really comparable. Like neither played great, but most in the media and even fans know that the talent around Allen isn't the same as the talent around Lamar. Buffalo has a much, much, better roster than the Ravens do. On both sides of the ball.
Allen is getting criticized quite a bit because on a roster full of talent, he's turning the ball over a lot, which is putting his defense in bad spots. Now he's always been a high turnover-rate kind of QB, but when you're blowing teams out or winning a lot more, nobody cares. Same with Mahomes.
Allen had 7 turnovers in a 3 game stretch, and Bill went 1-2 and didn't look great in any of those games. People definitely criticized him for that.
Allen has a turnover problem for sure. 11 turnovers in last 5 games, compared to just 6 TD passes (9 total TDs). Dudes fumbled a ridiculous 9 times in 9 games. He's just been super lucky with recoveries.