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Lamar Jackson

UPennChem said:
So here's a link to to some stats. I'll give you one and then qualify it to be fair.

Josh Allen threw more RZ interceptions last year than any QB has in any year over the entire course of QB play since he's been in the league.

That being said, that was by far his worst year and had one year that was completely clean of them.

I watched a lot of Bills games last year and he was really bad in the RZ. Had multiple dropped interceptions and fumbles that he got away with.

So there's definitely some recency bias here. That being said, the only thing I want to say confidently is that it's obvious he's not in contention for best QB in the league.

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Agreed, but Neither is Lamar
 
UPennChem said:
So here's a link to to some stats. I'll give you one and then qualify it to be fair.

Josh Allen threw more RZ interceptions last year than any QB has in any year over the entire course of QB play since he's been in the league.

That being said, that was by far his worst year and had one year that was completely clean of them.

I watched a lot of Bills games last year and he was really bad in the RZ. Had multiple dropped interceptions and fumbles that he got away with.

So there's definitely some recency bias here. That being said, the only thing I want to say confidently is that it's obvious he's not in contention for best QB in the league.

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I’m looking at this though….. Allen 29 TDs in the RZ, 23 passing, 6 rushing. Lamar 15 TDs in the RZ, 13 passing, 2 rushing. wowzer
 
Tank said:
I’m looking at this though….. Allen 29 TDs in the RZ, 23 passing, 6 rushing. Lamar 15 TDs in the RZ, 13 passing, 2 rushing. wowzer
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Yeah obviously Lamar missed a shit ton of games again. Additionally when he was in, it was clear our amenic offense became INEPT in the RZ.

Thing is, when our teams weren't injured to death like in 19 and 20, our RZ offense was much better
 
UPennChem said:
Yeah obviously Lamar missed a shit ton of games again. Additionally when he was in, it was clear our amenic offense became INEPT in the RZ.

Thing is, when our teams weren't injured to death like in 19 and 20, our RZ offense was much better
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I mean last year Roquan helped us more than end-of season Lamar or Huntley
 
Tank said:
Not sure why you think Allen is overrated, dude is pretty beastly both as a runner and passer. He’s had nothing besides Diggs and the Bills O line is one of the worst in the league. I think he’s done remarkably well given the circumstances.
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again, he does have Diggs and Gabe Davis isn't a slouch.
 
Tank said:
Not sure why you think Allen is overrated, dude is pretty beastly both as a runner and passer. He’s had nothing besides Diggs and the Bills O line is one of the worst in the league. I think he’s done remarkably well given the circumstances.
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According to this forum every QB besides Mahomes and Lamar is overrated, if not straight up trash. And even Lamar is questionable.
 
RaineV1 said:
According to this forum every QB besides Mahomes and Lamar is overrated, if not straight up trash. And even Lamar is questionable.
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Small ammendment. This forum thinks Mahomes and Burrow are atop the NFL and that Lamar could be there if the team actually put together an appropriate offense led by an appropriate OC.
 
UPennChem said:
Let me just be clear, I'm not saying he's bad. He's obviously good, but for 2 years now and a lot at times last year, he was being championed as the best QB in the league. Which frankly, he's not even close to.

Allen is like Lamar but pretty much worse in almost every category. Not by a ton, but a couple percent worse in a few categories adds up. I think the biggest category that separates them are decision making and in the RZ especially.

And yeah he's not had all world rosters, but neither has Mahomes and see what he's done. The Bills rosters have been lauded as top 5 in thr league for the last few years.
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Wild that they were calling allen the best qb in lg when mahommes done better than him in every category since allen has entered the nfl.. like there was no evidence that allen was better yet they “ experts” still seem to say outrages things with hopes of being correct. Like theres games where you would watch a guy and say “ dam he the best in nfl” but after that you should be back to reality lol
 
Deebo813 said:
Wild that they were calling allen the best qb in lg when mahommes done better than him in every category since allen has entered the nfl.. like there was no evidence that allen was better yet they “ experts” still seem to say outrages things with hopes of being correct. Like theres games where you would watch a guy and say “ dam he the best in nfl” but after that you should be back to reality lol
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THANK YOU. Dude is a good QB! Get's ridiculously overrated tho
 
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