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Lamar Jackson

So it seems like Lamar is trying to sell himself as a well rounded QB, while whoever-he's-using is trying to drum up offers. I don't mind it. Lamar getting an offer from somewhere is the beginning of the end of this thing.

I just hope we don't need to wait until after the draft for someone to make a move.
 
I hope for Lamar's sake he gets it together. I don't want him to become the next Kaepernick / Newton. Like the moment an athletic QB loses a bit of their game and they are in the "outspoken" or big personality class, the NFL basically just disregards them
 
I hope for Lamar's sake he gets it together. I don't want him to become the next Kaepernick / Newton. Like the moment an athletic QB loses a bit of their game and they are in the "outspoken" or big personality class, the NFL basically just disregards them
I don't see him in the same vain, at least yet. The guy clearly just overplayed his hand and is now on some semblance of damage control to try to drive a deal to the finish line, whether here or elsewhere. Assuming the report that he's looking at other teams and doesn't want fully guaranteed is true, that seems like a clear admission that he's looking for basically ANY deal out there close to his price range because he does not want to play on the tag.
 
I don't see him in the same vain, at least yet. The guy clearly just overplayed his hand and is now on some semblance of damage control to try to drive a deal to the finish line, whether here or elsewhere. Assuming the report that he's looking at other teams and doesn't want fully guaranteed is true, that seems like a clear admission that he's looking for basically ANY deal out there close to his price range because he does not want to play on the tag.
Yeah he's not in that vein yet. I just hope he rights the ship and gets back on track and doesn't descend further into this NFLPA vs the league shit storm. Because if he does, I think he could end up like them.
 
Come on man, his body of work is not undone regardless how the Lamar situation plays out. He runs one of the best organizations in the NFL and has two championships.
Steve and his team are respected throughout the NFL and business worlds as doing things the right way and treating all of their employees with respect. It's only a select few that feel any other way, those feelings are strictly personal and aren't based on any facts.
 
Why would they pay him fast when they have him under control for $32M this year?
He doesn't have the balls to sit out. And if he manages to find them, its not like fans are exactly going to be sympathetic to a pro-athlete refusing to play for $32M.

You think guys making $10/hour are going to be like "yeah Lamar, hold out for that shit"... lol. Not a chance in hell. He'll get eviscerated by the public for that. Especially after turning down $133M fully gtd too.

And what's clear now is that Lamar very, very, very much cares about his perception.
so basically the less fortunate people arent sympathetic towards the fortunate ones? Lol. man idk how people could live with such a miserable state of mind
 
so basically the less fortunate people arent sympathetic towards the fortunate ones? Lol. man idk how people could live with such a miserable state of mind
I mean... have you looked around? You really think poor people are sympathetic towards rich people who are bitching about $ of literally any kind?

Like go ask any non-sports-fan what they think about a pro-athlete holding out from a $32M annual salary, or turning down an offer of $133M over three years. Guaranteed "sympathy" won't be the response you get in about 99% of the people you ask.

The only people sympathetic are the one's who understand the business side of the sport, which is a very small % of the population. And even some of them aren't.

The guy making $10/hour doesn't think there's a difference between the millionaire or the billionaire. All he thinks is they're both overpaid, and that he's underpaid. There's no deviation.
 
so basically the less fortunate people arent sympathetic towards the fortunate ones? Lol. man idk how people could live with such a miserable state of mind
I don’t think you have to be in a miserable state of mind to not be sympathetic towards Lamar’s situation. I mean think about it. Dude made $23 mil. last year, apparently turned down a 5 year extension with $175 mil. guaranteed regardless of injury. $200 mil. guaranteed if he’s on the roster 5 days into the 2026 league year.

 
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That’s facts bro that’s exactly who Lamar has reminded me of throughout this. Yeah he hasn’t sat out a year yet but… damn.
The way they (apparently) weren't just negotiating for themselves but also for a principle/for other players is definitely a similarity. Bell was trying to argue that RBs, pass catchers especially, were underpaid and he lost a lot of money because of it. Lamar's already probably a little behind in potential career earnings because he's left it so long.
 
The way they (apparently) weren't just negotiating for themselves but also for a principle/for other players is definitely a similarity. Bell was trying to argue that RBs, pass catchers especially, were underpaid and he lost a lot of money because of it. Lamar's already probably a little behind in potential career earnings because he's left it so long.
Pretty much. I think the time to take this "stance" was 2022, which they did.
Problem is the NFLPA is now figuring out that there aren't other Owners like Haslam, and that this little "power play" is going to backfire, i.e. he isn't going to get the compensation he or the NFLPA wants.

My only question is... what's the NFLPA's move when it doesn't happen? Is the move just to have him play for $72M over the next two years and then hit UFA and pray like hell that there is another super desperate team out there that will give him whatever he wants?

I mean if that's the case so be it. My suspicion is the best case scenario for the NFLPA now is to ask Lamar to play out the full 7 years at below market value, let him hit FA in 2025, and then he'll just have to accept whatever the best offer is, and that'll be that.

Basically the "grand plan" is crumbling. And they know it.
 
Pretty much. I think the time to take this "stance" was 2022, which they did.
Problem is the NFLPA is now figuring out that there aren't other Owners like Haslam, and that this little "power play" is going to backfire, i.e. he isn't going to get the compensation he or the NFLPA wants.

My only question is... what's the NFLPA's move when it doesn't happen? Is the move just to have him play for $72M over the next two years and then hit UFA and pray like hell that there is another super desperate team out there that will give him whatever he wants?

I mean if that's the case so be it. My suspicion is the best case scenario for the NFLPA now is to ask Lamar to play out the full 7 years at below market value, let him hit FA in 2025, and then he'll just have to accept whatever the best offer is, and that'll be that.

Basically the "grand plan" is crumbling. And they know it.
...unless he knuckles under, arrives for training camp, plays a stellar, injury-free year, and gets deeper into the Playoffs or wins a superBowl and then he's got his bargaining position back. Short of that, he is not going to get the Haslam treatment and just have money thrown at him.
 
Pretty solid piece with some direct quotes on the difficulties of the Lamar situation


I would agree he should make his wants known publicly. Part of the problem is he isn’t agreeing or denying any information. Just posting GIFs and Emojis
 
I would agree he should make his wants known publicly. Part of the problem is he isn’t agreeing or denying any information. Just posting GIFs and Emojis
Yeah. While it would suck for us and go against his pact with EDC, it's probably the only thing that's going to accelerate this at this point. I think the one quote in there about a team that would be interested in him having 0 contact with him to this point is pretty damning. Sounds like that might be changing with the reports coming out of yesterday, but still not a good look if a team doesn't even want to reach out because they have no idea where to even start because his circle is so tight. Nice to have that but if you want the big bucks, you gotta make moves yourself and that's the big miss with Lamar and his lack of agent. Greatly misplayed how he thought the process would go.
 
...unless he knuckles under, arrives for training camp, plays a stellar, injury-free year, and gets deeper into the Playoffs or wins a superBowl and then he's got his bargaining position back. Short of that, he is not going to get the Haslam treatment and just have money thrown at him.
SB win, maybe.
Again, I'd say its a slim-to-none chance Joe Burrow gets anything over 3 years, fully gtd, which means I struggle to see how Lamar would command more. Could say the same thing about Hurts, given both have been to a SB. Burrow with multiple conference championship games.
 
I would agree he should make his wants known publicly. Part of the problem is he isn’t agreeing or denying any information. Just posting GIFs and Emojis
For me, he's smart to not post the #, because I think he realizes there's no way he "wins" by doing that publicly. Anybody important within the NFL already knows what the # is, and the public will rally against him if he does.

However, the whole just denying reports, posting emoji's, etc. is just immaturity. Everybody is picking up on that at this point.

He's the guy who disputes claims by saying "wrong", but won't provide info about what was wrong about it or what the truth is. Either because he thinks the truth will hurt him, or because the thing he is denying is the truth after all.
 
For me, he's smart to not post the #, because I think he realizes there's no way he "wins" by doing that publicly. Anybody important within the NFL already knows what the # is, and the public will rally against him if he does.

However, the whole just denying reports, posting emoji's, etc. is just immaturity. Everybody is picking up on that at this point.

He's the guy who disputes claims by saying "wrong", but won't provide info about what was wrong about it or what the truth is. Either because he thinks the truth will hurt him, or because the thing he is denying is the truth after all.
You think they know his number? I would imagine they would, but reading reports like the above makes me think twice. Lamar has definitely handled this in an odd way so maybe they don’t know …. I do agree , He doesn’t need to post the number on Twitter, but I’m sure there’s a way for him privately to get the numbers out to interested GMs so they at least have a starting point.
 
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