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Lamar Jackson

Deebo813 said:
If we couldnt win it this season, idk how we gonna do it man. This was the year.. now with all the new defensive coaches i think we defense not winning it this upcoming season
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Just need to go on a damn playoff run, Cheifs looked like pure garbage 90% of the season. So did the bengals the year they went to the super bowl. We just need to avoid injuries to key playmakers, Mark Andrews and our best RBs always getting hurt right before the playoffs in our best years, ppl always forget because Andrews plays hobbled and Lamar masks so much.
 
gtalk12 said:
It's extremely difficult to win in this league. So why does the last pick in the first round face more fucking scrutiny?

Think about it. Joe Burrow was the first pick in the draft. Tua was 5. Herbert was 6. Trevor was the generational right? First pick in the draft. Kyler Murray was the first pick in the draft. 4 Qbs went before Jackson who was supposed to be a WR.

4. Baker was the first pick and Allen went 7.

Come on man.
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Part of it is of course playstyle, but also none of those guys are two time mvps. Also, none of them have torn up the league during the regular season, and then have an embarrassing lose like we did against the Chargers.

There needs to be some scrutiny for a team that destroys competitors during the season, and then does whatever the hell that second half of the Chiefs game was.
 
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RaineV1 said:
Part of it is of course playstyle, but also none of those guys are two time mvps. Also, none of them have torn up the league during the regular season, and then have an embarrassing lose like we did against the Chargers.

There needs to be some scrutiny for a team that destroys competitors during the season, and then does whatever the hell that second half of the Chiefs game was.
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When did we lose to the Chargers? 2018?
 
OURavensFan said:
Just need to go on a damn playoff run, Cheifs looked like pure garbage 90% of the season. So did the bengals the year they went to the super bowl. We just need to avoid injuries to key playmakers, Mark Andrews and our best RBs always getting hurt right before the playoffs in our best years, ppl always forget because Andrews plays hobbled and Lamar masks so much.
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We got the players but i think its gonna be tough for orr this season
 
Deebo813 said:
We got the players but i think its gonna be tough for orr this season
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you have to trust Madubuike, Roquan Smith and Kyle Hamilton. We will be fine. Probably not as good as last season on defense, but overall we shall be fine and maybe better on offense.
 
Dom McRaven said:
When did we lose to the Chargers? 2018?
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Also they were not tearing up the league in 2018. That was his rookie year and it was just kind of close narrow wins. Tearing up the league was the year after and that loss was to the Titans. Even that though you can kinda ignore because the team was suddenly ahead of schedule which triggered an increase in expectations.
 
Adreme said:
Also they were not tearing up the league in 2018. That was his rookie year and it was just kind of close narrow wins. Tearing up the league was the year after and that loss was to the Titans. Even that though you can kinda ignore because the team was suddenly ahead of schedule which triggered an increase in expectations.
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once Lamar came in we beat the Bengals 24-21, Raiders 34-17, Falcons 26-16, lost to the Chiefs in a nail biter 27-24, beat bucs 20-12, Chargers 22-10, Browns 26-24, lost to the Chargers 23-17.

There were a couple close wins, but I think you are remembering incorrectly.
 
RavensMania said:
once Lamar came in we beat the Bengals 24-21, Raiders 34-17, Falcons 26-16, lost to the Chiefs in a nail biter 27-24, beat bucs 20-12, Chargers 22-10, Browns 26-24, lost to the Chargers 23-17.

There were a couple close wins, but I think you are remembering incorrectly.
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They were all close until in some of them the Ravens pulled away in the 4th (which is a very good thing but a close game for 3 quarters is a game I would call close). For example the Raiders game was 20-17 before the Ravens added 14 in the 4th. The Falcons game was 16-10 going into the 4th before the Ravens won the quarter. Even the Chargers game was 16-10 going into the 4th. Basically they were all 1 score games going into the 4th which I would consider close.

I give a tremendous amount of credit for being able to win the 4th and put those games away but they were all close games going into and I stand by my premise that if a game is close for 3 quarters then it is an overall close game.
 
Adreme said:
They were all close until in some of them the Ravens pulled away in the 4th (which is a very good thing but a close game for 3 quarters is a game I would call close). For example the Raiders game was 20-17 before the Ravens added 14 in the 4th. The Falcons game was 16-10 going into the 4th before the Ravens won the quarter. Even the Chargers game was 16-10 going into the 4th. Basically they were all 1 score games going into the 4th which I would consider close.

I give a tremendous amount of credit for being able to win the 4th and put those games away but they were all close games going into and I stand by my premise that if a game is close for 3 quarters then it is an overall close game.
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technically a game is 4 quarters so i wouldn't take that away from them to prove your point.
 
RavensMania said:
technically a game is 4 quarters so i wouldn't take that away from them to prove your point.
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I mean every other sport does. In the NBA we don’t call a game a blowout when you are up 3 with 2 minutes left but end up winning by 12. Conversely it will be called a blowout when you are up 30 going into the 4th and win by 12.

The same is true of hockey, and soccer, and MLB. So why is it crazy to call a game that is close through the first 80% of it close in the NFL?
 
Adreme said:
I mean every other sport does. In the NBA we don’t call a game a blowout when you are up 3 with 2 minutes left but end up winning by 12. Conversely it will be called a blowout when you are up 30 going into the 4th and win by 12.

The same is true of hockey, and soccer, and MLB. So why is it crazy to call a game that is close through the first 80% of it close in the NFL?
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well we were well ahead of the bengals until they scored 14 points in the 3rd quarter but it doesn't matter because it doesn't fit your

narrative

a win is a win regardless and sometimes the close games are even more impressive, especially a rookie.
 
RavensMania said:
well we were well ahead of the bengals until they scored 14 points in the 3rd quarter but it doesn't matter because it doesn't fit your

narrative

a win is a win regardless and sometimes the close games are even more impressive, especially a rookie.
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My "narrative" is that the Ravens were playing a bunch of close games and managed to win most of them in Lamar's "rookie" year and were blowing people off the field in his MVP year, which was his first full starting season with reps as the starter all through the offseason.

I did not mention the Bengals game because it being close seemed like it was not in doubt. The game was 7-0 Ravens after 1 quarter. 13-7 Ravens at halftime, and that was off the Bengals getting a TD to tie it and then the Ravens getting back to back FGs. Then Bengals scored back to back TDs to take a 21-13 lead (still close) before the Ravens got a TD+2 to tie it up at the end of the 3rd at 21. Ravens got a FG in the 4th to make it 24-21. There was not a single point in that entire game where it was not within 1 score so I struggle to see how it would not be considered a close game by any definition.

I am just a little confused here because that was the only Bengals game of that year where Lamar was QB.
 
 
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