Dom McRaven
Hall of Famer
You know Lamar is getting tired of this defense playing like shit LMAOOOOOOOO.
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Lamar Jackson
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JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
Watching the 2018 week 17 game vs the browns. It’s pretty insane how fast Lamar was as a rookie. He’s fast now but he is nowhere near as fast as he was back then, holy shit he was an absolute blur when he took off in space. He’s got more awareness now and protects himself much better, but Lamar was moving at the speed of light in his rookie year.
Ellicottraven
Ravens Ring of Honor
My child...
Ellicottraven
Ravens Ring of Honor
I think after last night's performance, despite the win, Goff slides below Allen.
Ellicottraven
Ravens Ring of Honor
My baby boy!
Ellicottraven
Ravens Ring of Honor
He's not stupid. He's the smartest parrot alive!
I wouldn't compare him to a Parrot. That's totally unfair to the Parrot.
It might be the purple glasses, but I'd like to think it's not. I'm not sure there's a QB in NFL history that has improved as much as a Lamar has over the course of his career. While I was always a believer in Lamar, I'm not shy in saying that I had some concerns after seeing him at the end of 2018. I figured what we got in 2019 was incredible enough, but this 2024 version is far beyond what I thought he'd be. I'm not scared to admit it. I'm so glad we get to witness it.
I agree!! He has improved every year and its crazy.. im always disliked the “ back to 2019 mvp form” statement because i felt like he gotten better every year after that and he was actually ass that year tbh lol..
Sooky
MVP
People really don't watch games and only watch stats. It's like how Brock last year was "MVP" up until week 16 for some even though he did very little in a loaded offense. This year he's taken a step forward and is making better plays, better decisions, and is taking command of the offense. It just hasn't shown in the stats column or win column because of outside factors.
He took the league by storm in 2019 and the MVP was certainly well deserved and not even a debate, but the underlying film still showed a lot of inconsistencies and some mechanical things that obviously impacted him in the few years following. Last year felt like real NFL QB Lamar and this year he's seemingly put all of those pieces together.
Dom McRaven
Hall of Famer
To me, it started last season. Even early in the season (and @ravenslord can attest to this), I was like don't even look at the numbers. Watching the games, he took the command of an offense relatively quick. Going through his reads, deciding when to take off and scramble, etc. Something just felt different. He seemed more of a leader in this new offense especially after he got paid. It was the best I've seen him look under center (even better than 2019).
What we're seeing this season is the sequel with basically the same group of pass-catchers but a better RB (no disrespect to Gus). It's amazing what happens to a QB when your OC actually WANTS to listen and work with said QB while the front office supplies him with competent weapons (and I realize the sheer irony given who and where we're playing this week considering what happened last year when we played who and where).
The only two (well three) valid criticism I'm willing to listen to are his performances against the Steelers and his performances in the playoffs (I guess you can say the Chiefs as well, but it's not like he's GOD AWFUL against them). Against the Steelers, I have no idea what to make of his past games, but his playoff games aren't ALL his fault. He just needs to get over that mental hurdle and he should be golden.
Yeah I mean, we know what the next step is at this point. It's winning the whole damn thing. And it's more than just Lamar - the entire team from the coaches down to the guys on the field need to stop panicking and just do what they do.
I'm usually not this blunt about things, but it's a total organizational failure if we don't get it done in the next 2-3 years with Lamar playing as he is right now. They have to capitalize while he's in his prime and so in command.
I don't remember when this ended up getting better, maybe 2021, but in 2019 he still had issues throwing outside the numbers. Still had a narrow base, but you could see it improving and how we were destroying teams without much around him, I agree there was no debate and it was unanimous.
Baltimorican
Pro Bowler
There were also a couple seasons there where he had diddly squat at receiver. Demarcus Robinson was the #1 WR for an entire season.
Willie Snead led the 2019 ravens in snap count by wr lol. That's such an ultimate trivia question. People try to list Hollywood to detract how much Lamar did with so little, but Hollywood was a rookie who was constantly hurt and the bulk of his production came against Miami and the rams
it's funny because if not lamar, then allen's probably the guy who's most improved - especially if you look at college to rookie to first couple of years to now
it's funny because before the season, everyone was rightfully saying that it would be at least a season before we saw the best of this offence and then we got the MVP year and a lot of people just assumed that was the ceiling because it was so high already
and then this year has come along with lamar looking truly comfortable in the offence and monken looking truly comfortable with lamar and it's historic
Dom McRaven
Hall of Famer
Even before the season started, I expected Lamar to have a MVP caliber season when we signed OBJ and drafted Zay. All I needed was the OL to be competent.
Earlier on last season, the biggest concern was the offense in the 2nd half. Went from looking great to inadequate cruise control. People bring up the low number of Lamar's passing TDs during that part of the season, but they don't realize the number of times we got to 1st and goal from the goal-line (or the 2 or 3 yard line), what the playcall was and how damn near automatic that was regarding converting that into a TD.