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The 2023 Offseason Thread
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Davesta
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Went back and looked at our 2021 class…
1st: Rashod Bateman & Odafe Oweh
3rd: Ben Cleveland & Brandon Stephens
4th: Tylan Wallace
5th: Shaun Wade, Daelin Hayes, Ben Mason
Pair this with EDC’s 1st draft (2019), we might have to start a discussion…
Cause bruh..
Absolutely nothing wrong with Bateman. We will know more this season with Oweh and Cleveland whenever he has played has performed well. Stephens is ok also. Nothing wrong with this class. It may not be elite, but it's above average with the starters that have come from it. Once Bateman went down with an injury our offense was cooked.
Idk about being above avg..i dnt even think its avg. i like bateman and i think he nice but he has been injured… rest of those guys are actually bad. Will see more from clev and odafe this season but right now, they arent that good
Davesta
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Agree with deebo. Bateman was our best and only decent pick. And he’s been injured both seasons. That tells you how bad this class was. Definitely more below avg than it being above.
Which is why you look at process over results. 2019 and *so far* 2021 were disappointing but 2020 and *so far* 2022 were homeruns. Which nets you much better results over a 4 year span than most of the league because over time process leads to results.
average by league standards is 2 starters and I believe Bateman can be elite and has shown the ability to be a true number 1 as well.
Oh i agree with that for sure but people outside of us wont see it that way. Theyre gonna check box stats and see that he has been injured alot and not look any further
gtalk12
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Rashod looks as good as they come, he is just never available. This is the year we figure out if Odafe is going to have a career here. Enough is enough with him.
Ben is trash. Stephens is not half as bad as some of us feel he is.
Wallace? BUM. (was it Roman? Don't know anymore)
and the rest are 5th rounders with little to no expectations.
we don't know that Bateman was our only decent pick. We all thought PQ was a lost cause after two seasons. I believe Oweh has a breakout season this year and most of the time our OL picks tend to come around year 3. Stephens has had played all over the place and has been a valuable piece. Also in such a horrible draft class we were able to trade Shaun Wade for a 5th and a 7th, so he isn't a complete loss. We then used that 5th rounder to trade for RS.
We don't know if Cleveland is bad yet. Everytime he's been on the field he has performed pretty well and most of the time our lineman don't get an opportunity to play significant snaps until year three.
Bateman had his screw removed and that was the reason for the cortisone shot. This video explains it.
rmcjacket23
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Who cares. You'd do the same thing looking at other teams. Other people's opinion of the Ravens is irrelevant.
rmcjacket23
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I'd also point you towards the 2021 draft just at a league-wide level. It ain't great. There's some very high-end players in the top half to 2/3 of the first round, but if you just look at like the mid-20s and go back, it's a whole lot of Stephens/Oweh type players. Guys with upside who haven't materialized in the first two years, and just average starters across the board.
Pro Bowl isn't the be-all, end-all, but there's four total Pro Bowlers from the mid-20s back from that draft, and two of them were Centers. The day 2 picks in that draft are just pretty awful league-wide.
Tank
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He's had some nagging injuries his first 2 years as well that no one here seems to mention.
part of ben cleveland's issue getting on the field has been his complete lack of flexibility - Colon was consistently getting the edge being active over him when it's a question
his pathway to the roster is winning LG battle - if not... he might not make the team
i had a 5th round grade on him lol - didnt think he could move laterally at all - turns out he doesnt finish either...
got to stay away from any prospect that Harbs likes on the OL at this point... and even moreso if their nickname is Big Country... two consecutive 3rd round picks wasted on big countries...
great spot
Mekari working at LT in Ronnie's absence
Sala working at LG...
obviously it's only minicamp but something to monitor for sure when we get into training camp
Sala was clearly one of Joe D's guys... apparently they had some great conversations pre-draft
and also if you look, the rest of the league also had tough years those years - weaker classes beget weaker classes...
and day 3's a black hole