RaineV1
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As long as he doesn't come with AB's brain.
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As long as he doesn't come with AB's brain.
airconteka
MVP
Good thing Burfict is retired
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
The difference is pretty evident, don't you think?
UPennChem
Hall of Famer
Hamilton talked about stepping into Chuck's role and outright stated he won't be able to fill in all the things Chuck did right away because he did so much. Kyle's a straight shooter and I hope that if he is moving to Chuck's spot his year 2 learning curve is even better than year 1 at Nickle CB.
QtR Nevermore
Pro Bowler
Hamilton's great at a lot of things but I'm still a little worried about his lack of speed that showed up early last season. I'm not sure he'll ever be at his best in straight Safety role - I think he'll be better in a specialised Kyle Hamilton role.
It looks like the Ravens might be planning to do that by surrounding him with Williams' range and 2 fast ILBs, with another one in the pipeline. They'll probably be able to keep him close to the line of scrimmage most of the time.
rmcjacket23
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I mean maybe. Thing is though... Marcus Williams ain't fast either. The difference in 40 times between the two is like 0.03 seconds.
QtR Nevermore
Pro Bowler
Really? That surprises me because Williams seems to play pretty fast.
I wonder if that's bad 40 technique or a bad day and he shows up faster on tracking? I don't recall it showing up on the field.
Also, the relaid combine track is supposedly a little faster, so you could probably assume Williams time would have been a little quicker in 2022.
RaineV1
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It was just a joke. Though on a serious note it's good to remember that AB himself started off pretty quiet with no drama for awhile other than occasionally being a slight diva. At times it's a crapshoot on whether or not a player turns out kinda crazy or has skeletons in their closet.
RaineV1
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Hamilton's forty is just about the same as Ed Reed's (5.59 vs 5.57).
Reed ran a 4.5 i thought? Didnt hamilton run a 4.7? On the field, you would think reed ran a 4.3-4.4, hamilton actually looks slow. People will say otherwise but dude doesnt look fast at all
RaineV1
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For Reed's combine:
2002 NFL Combine Results | Pro-Football-Reference.com
Checkout the complete 2002 NFL Combine Results on Pro-Football-Reference.com
www.pro-football-reference.com
And here's the official combine page for Hamilton:
Kyle Hamilton Draft and Combine Prospect Profile | NFL.com
All Combine and Draft-Related Analysis, News, Video, and Biographical Information for Kyle Hamilton
you truly can't go by 40 time. Also in his first few games he was just getting everything under his belt and if you remember that game vs the Dolphins there were all rookies on the field at that time. That being said Hamilton's length makes up for a lot and that and it's also why he was so good last year.
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
His learning curve in year 1 wasn’t even at nickel, he was a natural there, the learning curve was playing a mid-high safety role
UPennChem
Hall of Famer
He said he played Nickel less than 20% of the time at ND on the lounge
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
Yeah but when he moved to full time nickel he was downright dominant as a rookie.
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
I don’t think it was a lack of speed tbh, I think it was just a series of poor reads and reactions. It looked more like he just played the routes really badly and speed never would’ve mattered to begin with. In short, it looked like rookie mistakes, major “oh shit” moments, like welcome to the nfl rookie moments.
When did lack of speed show up?
Yeah was coverage busts not lack of play speed
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
He was a deep half safety and attacked downhill on vertical routes. Looked to me like he tried to do what he did in college and paid for it, and clearly he learned from that