The Nightmare, the Turnovers and the Season's Over

[29BmoreBird22]

Does anyone think that there were more running plays called in but Lamar changed them to passing plays?

I've thought about this. I don't know the answer, but I'd doubt it because if the coaches felt running was the best course of action, someone would have gotten in Lamar's ear and told him to run the called play and hand the ball off.

I think it was a collective effort. Lamar is never going to say no to being asked to pass. The coaches needed to take the measured approach.

 

[RavensMania]

I've thought about this. I don't know the answer, but I'd doubt it because if the coaches felt running was the best course of action, someone would have gotten in Lamar's ear and told him to run the called play and hand the ball off.

I think it was a collective effort. Lamar is never going to say no to being asked to pass. The coaches needed to take the measured approach.

you score one of those TDs, whether it be Zay Flowers on the 98 yard drive and then he fumbled on the 1 yard line diving for the goal line or Ronnie blocks long enough for Lamar to pass to Bateman, than the game would be different and we would have been more balanced.

if if if ....

 

[OURavensFan]

I love the ravens...but please tell me why Smith did that rough encroachment with the clock stopped! Please please please purple Nation give me a reason.

To get a fresh 1st and 10, and had to be egregious enough to entice them to take it otherwise they’d decline and roll with 1st and 5. I think at least

 

[Florida Raven Fan]

Lamar seemed more antsy in this game. Definitely didn't show the calm and poise as previous games and then he turns to a turd when he's jittery like that.

That's why I wish we would've ran more. It probably would've gave him the chance to calm down a bit.

This is what a work buddy sent me lol.

 

[CanadianRavensFan]

I love the ravens...but please tell me why Smith did that rough encroachment with the clock stopped! Please please please purple Nation give me a reason.

Because if the chiefs got a first down with the clock running we would lose. We had three time stoppages, 2 timeouts and the 2 minute warning, so we couldn't let them run a play on the 1st & 5. If we didn't take that penalty KC converts the first down, we lose a time out or the two minute warning and at best we leave our offence with 1:30 to score a td. With the penalty we saved the offence 30 more seconds for them to try to score. The problem is that we failed to stop KC on 3rd down

 

[gtalk12]

Lamar seemed more antsy in this game. Definitely didn't show the calm and poise as previous games and then he turns to a turd when he's jittery like that.

That's why I wish we would've ran more. It probably would've gave him the chance to calm down a bit.

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Cowboys went to a NFC championship game?

 

[Grim]

I've said it before, but Chiefs got in our heads before we even did the coin toss. It was obvious from the Tucker shit. We should've shut that shit down before the game started. Instead, we let them mind fuck us and then we played undisciplined, tense football.

 

[OURavensFan]

Lamar seemed more antsy in this game. Definitely didn't show the calm and poise as previous games and then he turns to a turd when he's jittery like that.

That's why I wish we would've ran more. It probably would've gave him the chance to calm down a bit.

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I’m already seeing blind stat comparisons too, well Dak did after all throw 3TDs and 400 yards this year…. Lamar taking a ton of heat, and it is deserved, but he had 6TDs to 2 turnovers and however many yards, he did play better this year.

That god damn fumble man, we’d have won the game, that momentum change was about to be a top 5 moment in franchise history. Instead it was a continuation of the heartbreak since 2013

 

[29BmoreBird22]

I’m already seeing blind stat comparisons too, well Dak did after all throw 3TDs and 400 yards this year…. Lamar taking a ton of heat, and it is deserved, but he had 6TDs to 2 turnovers and however many yards, he did play better this year.

That god damn fumble man, we’d have won the game, that momentum change was about to be a top 5 moment in franchise history. Instead it was a continuation of the heartbreak since 2013

Dak's stats or what they largely were this year- garbage time padding.

He wracked up stats when the game was well out of hand.

 

[29BmoreBird22]

you score one of those TDs, whether it be Zay Flowers on the 98 yard drive and then he fumbled on the 1 yard line diving for the goal line or Ronnie blocks long enough for Lamar to pass to Bateman, than the game would be different and we would have been more balanced.

if if if ....

I've said it several times, but luck didn't benefit the Ravens in a way that it does other Super Bowl winners.

Just watch the 49ers- Brock Purdy had at least five interception worthy plays, including one that bounced off the defender's facemask and into the hands of receiver for a 50 yard gain.

There's a lot of clear and obvious no calls that happened that changed the game (DPI on Likely, holding on Likely, unnecessary roughness/blindside block on Maulet, Chris Jones literally beating Simpson's head back and forth, etc.) If those get called, the game probably equalizes a lot. If Zay doesn't fumble or the Ravens fall on it, I think the game looks way different. I don't think the Ravens force the ball to Likely like they did (still waiting to hear how it was a hail mary.)

There's just so many critical points in time that we could point to and say, "If this had been called correctly," or "If this just broke the Ravens way," and it sucks. That game was totally winnable.

 

[OURavensFan]

That was PI on Likely, that was not a Hail Mary. Should have been called

 

[OURavensFan]

I've said it several times, but luck didn't benefit the Ravens in a way that it does other Super Bowl winners.

Just watch the 49ers- Brock Purdy had at least five interception worthy plays, including one that bounced off the defender's facemask and into the hands of receiver for a 50 yard gain.

There's a lot of clear and obvious no calls that happened that changed the game (DPI on Likely, holding on Likely, unnecessary roughness/blindside block on Maulet, Chris Jones literally beating Simpson's head back and forth, etc.) If those get called, the game probably equalizes a lot. If Zay doesn't fumble or the Ravens fall on it, I think the game looks way different. I don't think the Ravens force the ball to Likely like they did (still waiting to hear how it was a hail mary.)

There's just so many critical points in time that we could point to and say, "If this had been called correctly," or "If this just broke the Ravens way," and it sucks. That game was totally winnable.

So true, both fumbles bounced their way. And my god Purdy probably had 5 turnover worthy plays in the Packer game too, so annoyed I have to pull for that privileged dipshit

 

[29BmoreBird22]

That was PI on Likely, that was not a Hail Mary. Should have been called

The hail mary thing is another poster insisting it was. He's since been very silent on that.

 

[CanadianRavensFan]

I've said it several times, but luck didn't benefit the Ravens in a way that it does other Super Bowl winners.

Just watch the 49ers- Brock Purdy had at least five interception worthy plays, including one that bounced off the defender's facemask and into the hands of receiver for a 50 yard gain.

There's a lot of clear and obvious no calls that happened that changed the game (DPI on Likely, holding on Likely, unnecessary roughness/blindside block on Maulet, Chris Jones literally beating Simpson's head back and forth, etc.) If those get called, the game probably equalizes a lot. If Zay doesn't fumble or the Ravens fall on it, I think the game looks way different. I don't think the Ravens force the ball to Likely like they did (still waiting to hear how it was a hail mary.)

There's just so many critical points in time that we could point to and say, "If this had been called correctly," or "If this just broke the Ravens way," and it sucks. That game was totally winnable.

I 100% believe that if the PI on Likely was called that the Ravens would have won. We had all of the momentum at that point and scoring a TD would have only of helped us

 

[Militant X 1]

This is kinda where I'm at. The Chiefs have a top defense, a top DC, and it was always going to be tough whatever we tried to do. We weren't going to be able to run it down their throats and walk over them. While we all wish they would have have run more, as you mentioned it was going to be the pass that set up the run game. And I always thought the path to victory was going to be through the air as it seemed Lamar and the receivers were ready to roll. That and LJ taking off running when he was able were our strengths moving forward through the tournament, but sadly they shit the bed.

It was never going to be through the air my brother. Ried's game plan was to make him a 'pocket-passer' which would limit Lamar's abilities.

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[Truth]

Going into the game, my biggest personal points of emphasis were the following. I thought we'd need Brandon Stephens and John Simpson to get past their recent struggles. I thought if Stephens finished the game with 6+ catches allowed, it would have spelled trouble for our attempts to contain Travis Kelce and Rashee Rice. I hoped we'd need mint performances from our true-edges Jadeveon Clowney and Odafe Oweh against the OTs, with immediate wins, and that our crowd noise could force Jawaan Taylor into possibly multiple false starts. It was a shaky start out of the game, with Simpson shed by Leo Chenal to force a 1 yard gain. Stephens would concede a catches of 10 and 13 on the following drive, including on a 4th and 2, with Clowney netting an unblocked pressure from the backside.

Collectively, for the sake of the POEs, the first half went arguably as poorly as it could. Some absolutely turned positively. Stephens fared noticeably better in the 2nd half when we switched to more man coverage. Taylor was forced into a holding call. Sadly, it was the only one of the contest, with 0 pre-snap penalties across the board. Credit to the Chiefs for limiting us. It does feel like we beat ourselves in large part. And I can't put the entire result on the penalties, and the lack thereof. But it had to have been dissuading to be unable to set the tone with physicality not equalized. These were the clearest examples I saw live (Link and link), both on the same drive. And on their second drive after, you have the Kyle Van Noy bump that extends the drive (Link). You could argue that it was because a second player was involved. But Geno Stone flying across the screen and not drawing a penalty at least implies that they're letting players player beyond the whistle. The crew working the game was criticized days in advance, so I can't say that I'm shocked at the discrepancy. But it's still disappointing.

 

[SaltyDog]

"I've got another step, I feel like I could be one of the best receivers in this league. I'm not going to let one moment define me... I'm going to use that as a slingshot."
-Zay Flowers

 

[OURavensFan]

I 100% believe that if the PI on Likely was called that the Ravens would have won. We had all of the momentum at that point and scoring a TD would have only of helped us

It even better if Flowers just doesn’t fumble. Because the decision and throw to Likely was awful

 

[OURavensFan]

"I've got another step, I feel like I could be one of the best receivers in this league. I'm not going to let one moment define me... I'm going to use that as a slingshot."
-Zay Flowers

He will be, I expect him to get stronger physically too this off season. We need to get another WR however

 

[CanadianRavensFan]

It even better if Flowers just doesn’t fumble. Because the decision and throw to Likely was awful

I agree that flowers should have just went down instead of trying to score, but atleast that turnover was KC making a good play. The missed PI on Likely, while being a questionable decision, was an inexcusable no call by the refs