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JO_75 said:
Anyone have thoughts on this whole impeachment process?
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Fake impeachment. You know it. I know it. Honest democrats know it. The world knows it, and is taking notice.

Just think about something next time you look at your pay stub. See all that tax money you paid to the government? It isn't going to people in need, to fix our roads or enrich our schools. It is paying for political stunts by power hungry democrats. How does it make you feel that you are paying for a clear farce of an impeachment? Didn't you have better plans for that money?
 
No results in the Iowa Caucuses as everything is delayed until tomorrow. LOL, something tells me the winner wasn't who the DNC wanted so they are scrambling to interfere to make sure they get their choice. Bernie must have won because the DNC was never going to prop him up and showcase him. Democrats aren't going to refuse to accept the results once again are they?
 
JO_75 said:
No results in the Iowa Caucuses as everything is delayed until tomorrow. LOL, something tells me the winner wasn't who the DNC wanted so they are scrambling to interfere to make sure they get their choice. Bernie must have won because the DNC was never going to prop him up and showcase him. Democrats aren't going to refuse to accept the results once again are they?
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I heard Ben Shapiro say initial reports were that Bernie was killing it
 
Dom McRaven said:
With the dust clear, YOUR WINNER...............PETE BUTTIGIEG!
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LOL, rigged as hell. Pete donated money to the company who made the app that crashed and was counting the votes. Also this just proves the Dems will do anything to hurt Bernie, they don't want him to be the candidate against Trump. I never heard of this Buttigieg guy until this whole debacle. Sounds like they want him to win in order to keep Bernie away who at first glance seemed to be leading the polls.

Trump broke the Democratic Party when he won. It's like Trump is the Patriots, the Democrats are the Falcons and they are still trying to recover from their defeat in 2016.
 
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JO_75 said:
LOL, rigged as hell. Pete donated money to the company who made the app that crashed and was counting the votes. Also this just proves the Dems will do anything to hurt Bernie, they don't want him to be the candidate against Trump. I never heard of this Buttigieg guy until this whole debacle. Sounds like they want him to win in order to keep Bernie away who at first glance seemed to be leading the polls.

Trump broke the Democratic Party when he won. It's like Trump is the Patriots, the Democrats are the Falcons and they are still trying to recover from their defeat in 2016.
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I don’t understand this whole Iowa caucus procedure. Bernie is winning the popular vote but is in second. I guess they have something similar to an Electoral College in Iowa.
 
JO_75 said:
LOL, rigged as hell. Pete donated money to the company who made the app that crashed and was counting the votes. Also this just proves the Dems will do anything to hurt Bernie, they don't want him to be the candidate against Trump. I never heard of this Buttigieg guy until this whole debacle. Sounds like they want him to win in order to keep Bernie away who at first glance seemed to be leading the polls.

Trump broke the Democratic Party when he won. It's like Trump is the Patriots, the Democrats are the Falcons and they are still trying to recover from their defeat in 2016.
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Honestly this shows how deep the bubble effect goes. Pete's been in the top four for about a year now and the midwest is his strongest region. A lot of polls have been projecting that he'd win Iowa for a while. If you haven't heard of him then that just shows how insular the bubbles are these days. Bernie's one of three people who've been bouncing around at the top in the national polls for a while, but as you lot like to point out, the national vote is almost meaningless in the whole process.

The whole primary/caucus system is terrible for both parties and this one has been an utter shitfest even with the low bar these things set, but a crappy system doesn't mean it's a rigged system. This isn't the first time I've said that on this thread and I suspect it won't be the last (see you guys in four years when nothing changes). It's the same with NFL officiating - just because a lot of individual calls have been terrible doesn't mean the NFL's trying to force a certain outcome. Nor does it mean the referees are in an elaborate gambling ring.

cobrajet said:
I don’t understand this whole Iowa caucus procedure. Bernie is winning the popular vote but is in second. I guess they have something similar to an Electoral College in Iowa.
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You're not the only one who doesn't understand it. Every party in every state does it differently and the result when you put them all together is a case study in what happens when archaic systems don't get updated as well as how ridiculous things can get when you leave everything to be done on a local level (it's the electoral equivalent of scrapping the US Army and instead giving every local government $2 million and telling them to defend themselves).

Pete Buttegieg is winning the popular vote in Iowa at the time of writing, but the primaries and caucuses are all about sending party delegates to the national convention to vote on the party's national candidate. One party in one state might split the delegates among the votes as evenly as possible while another party in the same state might make it winner takes all (so if three candidates each get 24% of the state's vote a fourth candidate might get 100% of the state's delegates by getting 28% of the vote). Or the party might just tell the delegates to not worry about the state's vote and just go with whoever they feel like anyway. So there's no rhyme or reason to it, and there's no real path to victory for any particular candidate. And that's before you get into superdelegates, who are delegates that aren't tied to a state but just vote for whoever they want at the conventions.

This guy explains it quite well.
 
I tell ya Pelosi with her confused looks and childish temper tantrums. She's a complete failure. Then the majority of dem women wearing white? Why? 72% of jobs created under Trump have been filled by women. Women suffering indeed. No wonder Hollywood loves these people. They're so dramatic.
 
cobrajet said:
I don’t understand this whole Iowa caucus procedure. Bernie is winning the popular vote but is in second. I guess they have something similar to an Electoral College in Iowa.
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Let me know when you figger it out cobrajet. I give up.
 
Sigh, I posted a long status on fb which was basically a big fat “who gives a fuck” and “what does it even matter?” Regarding pelosi ripping up a paper. And spoke about how politics has become a big fucking grandstand about who can insult the other side harder, so that the voters can get on fb like “LoL sUcK iT LiBtArDs” and “oRaNgE mAn BaD”. And now my mother in law who doesn’t know her ass from her elbow and thinks colloidal silver can cure an actual fucking infection is replying with walls of text about how horrible Democrats are and how great trump is for the AMERICAN PEOPLE....

Jesus Christ when will this nightmare end? Honestly I want everyone to stfu about politics unless they’re well versed on the topic and have a point; and I want the bipartisan system gone. I am so exhausted of this stupid shit.
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
Sigh, I posted a long status on fb which was basically a big fat “who gives a fuck” and “what does it even matter?” Regarding pelosi ripping up a paper. And spoke about how politics has become a big fucking grandstand about who can insult the other side harder, so that the voters can get on fb like “LoL sUcK iT LiBtArDs” and “oRaNgE mAn BaD”. And now my mother in law who doesn’t know her ass from her elbow and thinks colloidal silver can cure an actual fucking infection is replying with walls of text about how horrible Democrats are and how great trump is for the AMERICAN PEOPLE....

Jesus Christ when will this nightmare end? Honestly I want everyone to stfu about politics unless they’re well versed on the topic and have a point; and I want the bipartisan system gone. I am so exhausted of this stupid shit.
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If it doesn't end with next elections, all I can say is that's what you deserve, after letting populist win and rule with mostly blatant lies.
*spoken out of traumatic experience
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
Sigh, I posted a long status on fb which was basically a big fat “who gives a fuck” and “what does it even matter?” Regarding pelosi ripping up a paper. And spoke about how politics has become a big fucking grandstand about who can insult the other side harder, so that the voters can get on fb like “LoL sUcK iT LiBtArDs” and “oRaNgE mAn BaD”. And now my mother in law who doesn’t know her ass from her elbow and thinks colloidal silver can cure an actual fucking infection is replying with walls of text about how horrible Democrats are and how great trump is for the AMERICAN PEOPLE....

Jesus Christ when will this nightmare end? Honestly I want everyone to stfu about politics unless they’re well versed on the topic and have a point; and I want the bipartisan system gone. I am so exhausted of this stupid shit.
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Thank goodness I don't facebook.. I used to read the facebook comments after an article sometimes but it drove me crazy cuz it seems like the only thing people can do is namecall. Really became a waste of time since it was the same regurgitated shit over and over again like your libtard and orange man comments.

Thing is politics is extremely important when it comes to foreign and domestic policy. When you bring up people that are unversed that's a major major understatement especially on how they gather their "facts". Take this woman for example. She had no clue and why even vote for who she did? Probally just heard him talking about religion would be my guess.

 
Willbacker said:
Thank goodness I don't facebook.. I used to read the facebook comments after an article sometimes but it drove me crazy cuz it seems like the only thing people can do is namecall. Really became a waste of time since it was the same regurgitated shit over and over again like your libtard and orange man comments.

Thing is politics is extremely important when it comes to foreign and domestic policy. When you bring up people that are unversed that's a major major understatement especially on how they gather their "facts". Take this woman for example. She had no clue and why even vote for who she did? Probally just heard him talking about religion would be my guess.

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Yeah, I saw that video and my first thought was, “Really? Do you live under a rock?”
 
allblackraven said:
If it doesn't end with next elections, all I can say is that's what you deserve, after letting populist win and rule with mostly blatant lies.
*spoken out of traumatic experience
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Have you seen what the democrats are trotting out? Holy shit. I’ll take 4 more years of this before I vote for any of them. Hopefully 4 more years of trump causes the system to implode, and at the same time the boomers are unable to get out and vote, so maybe people start actually voting libertarian. Because there isn’t a single democrat or republican that is viable aside from Rand Paul, and I think that’s because neither him or his father brought the outlandish rhetoric and storyline that people so desperately crave, like a trump or Bernie or Hillary or Obama.
 
Willbacker said:
Thank goodness I don't facebook.. I used to read the facebook comments after an article sometimes but it drove me crazy cuz it seems like the only thing people can do is namecall. Really became a waste of time since it was the same regurgitated shit over and over again like your libtard and orange man comments.

Thing is politics is extremely important when it comes to foreign and domestic policy. When you bring up people that are unversed that's a major major understatement especially on how they gather their "facts". Take this woman for example. She had no clue and why even vote for who she did? Probally just heard him talking about religion would be my guess.

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“It’s common knowledge”

“well I never heard about it”

shaking my FUCKING head. Doesn’t make it any less common knowledge you jackass.
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
Have you seen what the democrats are trotting out? Holy shit. I’ll take 4 more years of this before I vote for any of them. Hopefully 4 more years of trump causes the system to implode, and at the same time the boomers are unable to get out and vote, so maybe people start actually voting libertarian. Because there isn’t a single democrat or republican that is viable aside from Rand Paul, and I think that’s because neither him or his father brought the outlandish rhetoric and storyline that people so desperately crave, like a trump or Bernie or Hillary or Obama.
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It's all part of the populist and corrupt politics, no matter what side it is. Once somebody is allowed in based on that kind of bullshit, everybody else who wants to be heard must come down to the same level because politicians do not care and plebs is mostly dumb and will believe anything.
 
gtalk12 said:
Trump is going to get a second term lol
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