So. A lineman in the first is a "probable" upgrade over a third round pick? OK. He better be. You do him a disservice by calling him average I think. Thats all I am saying. As I said, you can't just raise up a guy that can do all the things he does well from out of nowhere. You think Tillery, a first round pick is going to come in and hold up at 5tech? he won't. he gets regularly moved by college guards one on one in the run game. He is going to set the edge against NFL tackles? he is going to be responsible for two gaps and hold up a guard/tackle? Does he show the ability to hold up a lineman and shed? The answer is no to all three and if you want him in round one and expect him to play 5, the answer needs to be yes.
you're under selling Wormley. And you're right; we do need interior rushers but I wouldn't take it solely out on Wormley without taking into account the things he is so good at.
He's average. Tillery has more UPSIDE(which is what matters) and with some basic NFL coaching is going to be a day one upgrade. And having seen a lot of Tillery tape, he's capable of all those things. He's not as good as a Simmons, etc, but Wormley doesn't have that kind of upside. Then again, with how insanely idiotic Harbaugh is, even Ed Oliver would be benched in favor of Wormley because of experience.
Again, if he goes and tears his ACL, it's a minor bummer. We aren't losing much. We can go get a guy for the vet minimum and get the same impact.
He's not bad. But let's not confuse him.
dude i think you've missed a lot of what wormley did last year on the DL - he's already a starter we just happened to have a rotation with 5 starting DL (especially at the beginning of the year when henry was healthy) - and in fact he statistically had the 3rd most starts on the DL behind Brandon Williams and Brent Urban which tells you everything you need to know about how much starts actually mean...
wormley takes on double teams with success, he occupies space, fills his gap and also is a threat in the passing game especially when he's singled...
if he's gone then we have a hole at 5tech - Sieler's not done anything yet and is by all intents and purposes a project who we dont know about yet and Urban's not on the team (and if we bring him back we might lose a 4th round pick out of the whole deal) and on top of that we lose the snaps wormley would give us - starts on the DL dont matter but Chris Wormley was the 3rd most used Dlineman (used more than michael pierce) and only urban and williams had more snaps (and urban is gone because the team likes wormley so much)
wormley is likely going to be this year's defensive ironman and im excited to see how he'll progress in year 3 having made a major leap from college to rookie and then again from rookie to sophomore
he may not be a guy who'll ever make a pro bowl but that doesnt mean that what he does isnt a valuable (and difficult) skillset and one that is hard to coach up and find in the league
He never made a major leap. He was this player in college, and had little to no upside. To say he made a leap is just a falsehood. It's why I hated the pick to start off with. He had little upside and had already maxed out. I'm not saying he's bad.
I'd bet a pretty penny that Seiler is a better player. Wormley was more pro ready coming out of school. Seiler has more physical gifts and actually dominated his college competition.. Wormley is a solid, but nowhere close to good or even above average, player who is a good piece as a rotational player.
He's just another example of this fanbase romanticizing certain players.
If we're banking on Wormley being one of our better dlinemen in general, we are in for a long season.
. but I was way to brief in my viewing of Tillery. Ive gone back and watched him a bunch today. Impressed by him. He's definitely a first round talent to me. I didn't remember how much he moves around their front and for some reason remembered him pretty exclusively at 3tech. Not the case. Great effort as well. Was often double teamed on passing downs. 
