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Lamar Jackson

rossihunter2

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This thread is just one big love letter to Lamar and people who criticize him in any way are called mindless trolls as to not disrupt the love affair going on for him. He’d be so touched reading all your notes

It’s almost like he’s an elite player on the team we support who’s presently playing better than any other singular player in the sport...

Balance isn’t “both sides” being platformed equally, it’s making a judgment on the merits of those claims.

Right now I’ve seen no convincing reason for this thread not to be basically only praise... like what is there possibly to criticise him for right now?
 

RavensMania

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I ride or die with Lamar as hard as any singular Ravens fan. I fucking love Lamar.

Lamar is an absolute heaven send to the Ravens organization that singlehandedly found a way to revitalize and reinvigorate a flat as fuck offense that was floundering as hard as Magikarp does in the Pokemon video games.

What annoys me the absolute most, and the reason I despise certain posters, is that people are still skeptical of Lamar and act like he's coasting off his MVP season, but unironically thought Joe was good from 2015-2018. You wanna talk about coasting off an achievement... Every excuse under the sun was made for Joe and why he was flatter than a year old soda, but Lamar isn't given that luxury. Instead, he's doubted and questioned.

Despite all that, Lamar rises to the challenge. He's an absolute menace on the field and he is again showing that he is that guy. He absolutely is the best quarterback to ever play for the Ravens and if the Ravens don't pay him, someone will open the bag and give him whatever he wants.
Flacco's isn't doing well because of the brace or They are changing the brace next week and his mobility will get better.

This is so true, excuses were made on a regular basis for Flacco, but none are allowed for Lamar.
 

ndub

Ravens Ring of Honor
It’s almost like he’s an elite player on the team we support who’s presently playing better than any other singular player in the sport...

Balance isn’t “both sides” being platformed equally, it’s making a judgment on the merits of those claims.

Right now I’ve seen no convincing reason for this thread not to be basically only praise... like what is there possibly to criticise him for right now?

The issue is (and I'll just ignore the thread from here on out, no prob) that there are some of you who write a page full essay of nothing but complete love and desire for him. That's disgusting
 

JoeyFlex5

Hall of Famer
Just pointing out the facts
That’s not a fact though. @29BmoreBird22 has been around for a very long time and has always posted constructively. Not his fault you ignore any and everything constructive.

The issue is (and I'll just ignore the thread from here on out, no prob) that there are some of you who write a page full essay of nothing but complete love and desire for him. That's disgusting
Well it just so happens you’re on the Lamar thread at a time where he’s the early mvp front runner and has been the best player in the league. I promise if you watch ANY nfl coverage you’ll see the same, the entire nfl world is raving over Lamar Jackson right now, and you’re on a RAVENS forum asking why we aren’t bashing his performance?

Bro, make it make sense, or shut up and grow up, it’s pathetic.
 

RavensMania

Staff Member
Administrator
The issue is (and I'll just ignore the thread from here on out, no prob) that there are some of you who write a page full essay of nothing but complete love and desire for him. That's disgusting
you don't have to read the posts either. This is a discussion forum and if a member wants to write something about Lamar or anything, that is their right. You come in and just throw ice on it without giving any reason whatsoever.
 

RavensMania

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Administrator
@Sizzle you have been totally out of line since preseason began, criticizing players without backing it up and critiquing what others have been saying without backing up your opinions. If you'd rather post on reddit or RSR and listen to 105.7 than that is your right.

I'm all for differing opinions as that is what makes a discussion forum fun, but when you are giving a different opinion, without backing it up, well that's trolling.
 

BoredMarine13

Ravens Ring of Honor
I really hope the defense pulls it together because I truly believe Lamar can do some damage in the playoffs.

I think Lamar had the unfortunate pressure of being THE GUY in the playoffs in his first few years where he basically had to carry the team and had to play mistake free ball or the team would falter. I don't think we'd be having these conversations if he had a team similar to the 2011 Ravens.
Disagree. Stop the excuses. Lamar has never had to be the guy in the playoffs to win. He maybe now with our defense in shambles, but historically the D has played well in the playoffs while Lamar has not.
The defense had an amazing game vs the chargers. Especially considering the amount of 3 and outs by the offense. The offense produced nothing until it was to late. But he was a rookie, shit happens with rookies.

2019 was an all around failure vs the titans, no body did their jobs well that day.

Lamar was flat out bad vs the Bills leading up to his injury and on a day when the defense(and the weather) stifled the Bills high octane offense.

Even in our win Vs the Titans, the better unit was the Defense. Completely erased Henry and forced two Tannehill T/Os.

I'll defend Lamar to no end when it comes to being one of the best QBs in the league. Honestly he is the best in my eyes(purple colored glasses?), but I'm tired of the excuses for his playoff failures. Just call a spade a spade, that's doesn't mean we throw in the towel or assume he will never get better, but its ok to admit how bad he was without applying every excuse possible. My guess? In ten years well all look back and laugh at the thought Lamar couldnt win in the playoffs.
 
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ndub

Ravens Ring of Honor
Disagree. Stop the excuses. Lamar has never had to be the guy in the playoffs to win. He maybe now with out defense in shambles, but historically the D has played well in the playoffs while Lamar has not.
The defense had an amazing game vs the chargers. Especially considering the amount of 3 and outs by the offense. The offense produced nothing until it was to late. But he was a rookie, shit happens with rookies.

2019 was an all around failure vs the titans, no body did their jobs well that day.

Lamar was flat out bad vs the Bills leading up to his injury and on a day when the defense(and the weather) stifled the Bills high octane offense.

Even in our win Vs the Titans, the better unit was the Defense. Completely erased Henry and forced two Tannehill T/Os.

I'll defend Lamar to no end when it comes to being one of the best QBs in the league. Honestly he is the best in my eyes(purple colored glasses?), but I'm tired of the excuses for his playoff failures. Just call a spade a spade, that's doesn't mean we throw in the towel or assume he will never get better, but its ok to admit how bad he was without applying every excuse possible. My guess? In ten years well all look back and laugh at the thought Lamar couldnt win in the playoffs.

*GASP*....... here come all the Lamar lovers to defend their lover
 

29BmoreBird22

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Disagree. Stop the excuses. Lamar has never had to be the guy in the playoffs to win. He maybe now with our defense in shambles, but historically the D has played well in the playoffs while Lamar has not.
The defense had an amazing game vs the chargers. Especially considering the amount of 3 and outs by the offense. The offense produced nothing until it was to late. But he was a rookie, shit happens with rookies.

2019 was an all around failure vs the titans, no body did their jobs well that day.

Lamar was flat out bad vs the Bills leading up to his injury and on a day when the defense(and the weather) stifled the Bills high octane offense.

Even in our win Vs the Titans, the better unit was the Defense. Completely erased Henry and forced two Tannehill T/Os.

I'll defend Lamar to no end when it comes to being one of the best QBs in the league. Honestly he is the best in my eyes(purple colored glasses?), but I'm tired of the excuses for his playoff failures. Just call a spade a spade, that's doesn't mean we throw in the towel or assume he will never get better, but its ok to admit how bad he was without applying every excuse possible. My guess? In ten years well all look back and laugh at the thought Lamar couldnt win in the playoffs.
I think you're misunderstanding what I'm trying to say.

I'm not trying to say Lamar is infallible or that Lamar has played great in the playoffs. I tend to think the Bills game is a little overrated due to the one critical interception. I view the Chargers game as simply worse from Lamar, but I digress.

What I'm saying is that Lamar has had to be THE guy and that the team hasn't exactly consistently stepped up around him and helped shoulder the load if he's not having a great day.

I referenced the Joe Flacco vs New England playoff game as an example of what I mean-

Joe was downright abysmal. Like, you'd have been better off not having him throw a single pass. He was actively a detriment in that game. But the Ravens won by 19 because the running game was so dominant.

If Lamar isn't producing at a high level, he hasn't had guys that consistently bailed him out in the passing game or a running game that came through to carry him. He's pretty much had to be on point or the team sputters.

And again, that isn't to say he's been perfect, because he hasn't been. It's just to say that the level of responsibility assigned to Lamar is higher than that of when Joe was quarterbacking and holding their playoff resumes to the same standards isn't totally fair.
 

redrum52

Hall of Famer
If people want to ignore facts feel free lol. It's funny cause some of the same people with a laundry list of excuses for that other guy now see valid reasons for the teams lack of success as excuses. Can't make this shit up and they don't see the hypocrisy. But carry on.
 

redrum52

Hall of Famer
I think you're misunderstanding what I'm trying to say.

I'm not trying to say Lamar is infallible or that Lamar has played great in the playoffs. I tend to think the Bills game is a little overrated due to the one critical interception. I view the Chargers game as simply worse from Lamar, but I digress.

What I'm saying is that Lamar has had to be THE guy and that the team hasn't exactly consistently stepped up around him and helped shoulder the load if he's not having a great day.

I referenced the Joe Flacco vs New England playoff game as an example of what I mean-

Joe was downright abysmal. Like, you'd have been better off not having him throw a single pass. He was actively a detriment in that game. But the Ravens won by 19 because the running game was so dominant.

If Lamar isn't producing at a high level, he hasn't had guys that consistently bailed him out in the passing game or a running game that came through to carry him. He's pretty much had to be on point or the team sputters.

And again, that isn't to say he's been perfect, because he hasn't been. It's just to say that the level of responsibility assigned to Lamar is higher than that of when Joe was quarterbacking and holding their playoff resumes to the same standards isn't totally fair.
A simple look at the running games numbers and defensive production could show the differences in teams each has had to deal with. Or maybe looking at the gold jackets. Or having actually watched the games. Both quarterbacks situations are completely different. While Joe could sit there and just not mess up, the other actually has to produce for the team to have success.

There's no coincidence that when he finally played well the team became serious bowl contenders.
 
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