I know one of them was in the Bears game, but both of them?
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JoeyFlex5
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A long return from a perriman drop and a pick six from a Moore drop in the bears game. Then as you pointed out the 2017 bengals game
JoeyFlex5
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So then he was ultimately responsible for 0 points. It’s a wash.
I thought one of them was Perriman as well. Thanks for confirming.
I know I use different stats then a lot of people and I am not trying to sell the stats I use (like how I really dont care about the YPC of a RB when I care far more about yards after contact provided yards before contact are over a certain number), but I am not cherry picking stats to make him look good. Its just that the stats I like suggest he should be doing far more then he is if he is given more touches. Everything I have seen of him shows he is playing very well at the NFL level against NFL players and that counts more to me then college tape.
Basically I expected Hollywood to have the role I expect Boykin to have but now Boykin has taken that spot and I just wonder where the extra snaps are available.
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Please never invest in the stock market.
Anyway, it’s a matter of strategy. A few notes:
-Seth Roberts is primarily a slot receiver so the idea that Willie Snead is the only slot is ridiculous
-Chris Moore has also done some of his best work out of the slot
-Hollywood Brown brings speed to the field that changes the defense. The only other receiver on this team with that kind of potential is Boykin.
-So your point is that Hollywood Brown has no NFL game snaps so he should be the 6th receiver, and he doesn’t play Teams, so he shouldn’t dress and therefore proceed to get no NFL game snaps? For someone that wants to accuse others of logical fallacies...that’s quite a doozy.
I take your point and frankly agree to a certain extent regarding Moore’s opportunities but I have to ask, given that he’s been in the field quite a bit...do you think Moore is actively not being thrown to or is it not possible that he makes plays when he’s open...but is not open as often as you would like?
Either way I’m excited to leave the era where we’re making excuses for guys like more and have receivers like Boykin and Hollywood (assuming they play to their potential) where the results simply speak for themselves. If it takes advanced stats to make the point...it’s probably not a very strong point.
I made my weekly preview for the Baltimore Ravens at Miami Dolphins ahead of Sundays game. It's a bit of a long one, but I am just beyond excited for Ravens football to have returned.
Please give it a read and let me know if the pictures are doing anything for you.
https://purpleflock.com/threads/1083/
Please give it a read and let me know if the pictures are doing anything for you.
https://purpleflock.com/threads/1083/
the pictures are nice - some are a bit too low definition to be able to read (like the fitzmagic cycle chart) but the article was a nice read - glad to have you back
I didn't realize you couldn't click them to expand them... that's disappointing, but I'll make note of it in the future. I was trying to keep them all a similar size so as to not have any crazy size disparities, but I'll just have to do them at home and format them all to be one larger, consistent size.
Disappointing considering he was a FP yesterday.
given friday is normally walk throughs/no pads im not particularly concerned - probably part of the plan given he was a late addition to the injury report yesterday
As the fourth WR he wasn't getting a lot of snaps and when he was he generally wasn't the primary or secondary option on a play and if your first or second read is open you go there instantly.
Watching the offense drove me insane because it was 1 read then checkdown so if the other 2 get open it doesn't matter
he also wasnt the primary or secondary read because he wasnt consistently getting open on those quick read type throws without having space manufactured for him - now there's more of a chance of that space being created with him as the motion-man in a lamar led offence but he's going to have to fight for that role with hollywood
for what its worth this is per zrebiec today reporting on harbs presser:
"Harbaugh said that Marquise Brown had no setbacks and will play Sunday."
So...he was the 4th receiver because reasons?
Because Brown was great (pre Lamar I think he was the only piece defenses cared about), you wasted money signing Crabtree who could get open and look good but forgot that you can't get YAC if you can't do that C part. Then in slot you had Snead and also over middle Andrews as a TE option.
I still think Brown ends up with around 40-50 catches for 500-600 yards by years for similar reasons, I just wouldn't suit him up this week because the others have shown they can do it and its the Dolphins so giving him 1-2 more weeks can't hurt.
This is a pretty good estimate
Brown as in John Brown? This is exactly what I’m talking about with the lowered expectations we Ravens fans have for wide receivers. John Brown is a 1-tool WR3 in this league. Hollywood runs a more various route tree today than John Brown has at any point in his career.
I’m all for gamesmanship but at some point you line up and play. And your most talented players do the same.