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The Bad, The Ugly, and the Pathetic
- Thread starter Dom McRaven
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RaineV1
Ravens Ring of Honor
The hole at pass rush can't be masked. We could have an all star secondary and it won't matter if a qb gets all day to throw.
Dom McRaven
Hall of Famer
Bruhhhhh
ravenslord
Ravens Ring of Honor
Unheard of .
52520Andrew
Pro Bowler
Said this in the game thread but Jalen Ramsey won't fix this defense.
cdp
Ravens Ring of Honor
That list hurts, but I'd offer a 1st this year, a 2nd in 2021 and a player. I'm not willing to trade a 2020 1st and 2021 1st. No way. That's too much for 12 games at best.
QuothTheRaven
Veteran
We need a pass rush.
cobrajet
Hall of Famer
I would love to have Ramsey, but I don’t think Jax really wants to trade him. They claim they want two 1’s in return. That is a steep price, but then again Ramsey is a proven beast.
Sami84
Ravens Ring of Honor
but it'll make it better. We have to start from somewhere
I hope eric doesn't try the ''I'm going to build thorugh the draft '' crap. our drafts are crap in general and our eye for talent is laboring at the bottom of all the NFL teams. We get excited when we have a solid player and pay them like they're aaron donald.
SaltyDog
MVP
Earl’s hammie’s are sensitive don’t you know. Lol
Christian Schwarz
Practice Squad
lol at those calling the season over already haha put your natural light down bud.
Ugly game for sure, the Browns were 1-2 but simply played harder than us today and look to have more talent and like they could easily win this division.
Our defense is way better than this, the only logical explanation is that our defense has played tired, lazy, worst in the NFL defense, which is unusual for us but has happened 3 weeks in a row. But that is what you get when you draft offense instead of defense and refuse to add more players on defense other than Earl Thomas...especially after we lost a lot of good defensive players in free agency.
This defense has no identity, and even a fake one at times with Pernell McPhee acting like he is Ray Lewis or Ed Reed. For the first time in franchise history this defense is without a clear cut leader, it certainly is not and never will be McPhee.
Kyler Murray- 349yds
Pat Mahomes- 374yds
Baker & Chubb- 500+yds
No pass rushers, weak DBs which makes for unstoppable offenses clearly proven today given we could not stop the Brown's offense.
UNACCEPTABLE
Penalties, dropped balls CATCHABLE BALLS. Multiple costly turnovers. Shotgun draw on 3rd and 6?!?! Marty is that you?!?! That is a Marty Morenenehig special the shotgun draw on 2nd or 3rd and long. That's like saying "nope we won't get a first down passing" Not even going to try? Horrible play call, and poor play calling all game not taking any deep shots all game. No pass attempts to Hayden Hurst all game until garbage time...so much for that 1st round pick.
No pass rush whatsoever, meanwhile our defense got to watch the Browns feast on Lamar Jackson all day. The Offensive line has struggled, and where most savvy QBs know how to best take advantage of constant pressure and blitzes Lamar is clearly not ready to run the offense, he doesnt know how to pick up blitzes, have not heard him audible at the line ever, and why not implement some hurry up offense into what could be a much more dangerous offense.
Lamar Jackson has got to find a way to become a Mastermind behind the line of scrimmage become a student of the game and really do everything in his power to become the best passer he can be. He clearly lacks talent as a pocket passer...same as Vick, Cam Newton, Kaepernick, RG3 and others who are always a threat to move the ball with their legs, which makes for an exciting offense but ultimately they are not capable when it matters to move the ball through the air.
I'm all for giving Lamar a chance to develop but it just feels like he is a player who has a short ceiling when it comes to passing the ball. As hard as he may work and try to be a great passer and say things like he wants to throw the ball 30-40 times per game and that he prefers passing the ball to running it all the things you want to hear. Maybe it was the offensive lines fault, or the receivers for dropped passes...but sooner or later we have to start passing the ball better, take shots down field, the Browns knew we wouldn't, challenged us to do so with their defenders playing well off the ball and they were right because we could not pass the ball.
Our season is not over yet, we just need to make an effort to improve and up the effort level. Would be nice to see us make a trade or sign a veteran to add a spark to an otherwise culturally insufficient Ravens team. No identity no swag, no ball so hard U.
Ugly game for sure, the Browns were 1-2 but simply played harder than us today and look to have more talent and like they could easily win this division.
Our defense is way better than this, the only logical explanation is that our defense has played tired, lazy, worst in the NFL defense, which is unusual for us but has happened 3 weeks in a row. But that is what you get when you draft offense instead of defense and refuse to add more players on defense other than Earl Thomas...especially after we lost a lot of good defensive players in free agency.
This defense has no identity, and even a fake one at times with Pernell McPhee acting like he is Ray Lewis or Ed Reed. For the first time in franchise history this defense is without a clear cut leader, it certainly is not and never will be McPhee.
Kyler Murray- 349yds
Pat Mahomes- 374yds
Baker & Chubb- 500+yds
No pass rushers, weak DBs which makes for unstoppable offenses clearly proven today given we could not stop the Brown's offense.
UNACCEPTABLE
Penalties, dropped balls CATCHABLE BALLS. Multiple costly turnovers. Shotgun draw on 3rd and 6?!?! Marty is that you?!?! That is a Marty Morenenehig special the shotgun draw on 2nd or 3rd and long. That's like saying "nope we won't get a first down passing" Not even going to try? Horrible play call, and poor play calling all game not taking any deep shots all game. No pass attempts to Hayden Hurst all game until garbage time...so much for that 1st round pick.
No pass rush whatsoever, meanwhile our defense got to watch the Browns feast on Lamar Jackson all day. The Offensive line has struggled, and where most savvy QBs know how to best take advantage of constant pressure and blitzes Lamar is clearly not ready to run the offense, he doesnt know how to pick up blitzes, have not heard him audible at the line ever, and why not implement some hurry up offense into what could be a much more dangerous offense.
Lamar Jackson has got to find a way to become a Mastermind behind the line of scrimmage become a student of the game and really do everything in his power to become the best passer he can be. He clearly lacks talent as a pocket passer...same as Vick, Cam Newton, Kaepernick, RG3 and others who are always a threat to move the ball with their legs, which makes for an exciting offense but ultimately they are not capable when it matters to move the ball through the air.
I'm all for giving Lamar a chance to develop but it just feels like he is a player who has a short ceiling when it comes to passing the ball. As hard as he may work and try to be a great passer and say things like he wants to throw the ball 30-40 times per game and that he prefers passing the ball to running it all the things you want to hear. Maybe it was the offensive lines fault, or the receivers for dropped passes...but sooner or later we have to start passing the ball better, take shots down field, the Browns knew we wouldn't, challenged us to do so with their defenders playing well off the ball and they were right because we could not pass the ball.
Our season is not over yet, we just need to make an effort to improve and up the effort level. Would be nice to see us make a trade or sign a veteran to add a spark to an otherwise culturally insufficient Ravens team. No identity no swag, no ball so hard U.
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
No but what’s to say we could fix the pass rush by drafting?
The number of picks it takes to get Ramsey won’t affect our ability to land a pass rusher because we don’t know how to draft and coach them
JO_75
Hall of Famer
Send him back to Seattle that Quitter.
Sami84
Ravens Ring of Honor
This is John Harbaugh here, we'll get better and if we don't get better next week, we'll get better the following week, and so forth and what a performence by maurice canday eh? plays like a raven, i tell ya. Heart of a lion. Give that man a contract...
cdp
Ravens Ring of Honor
12 games under rookie contract. He's going to hold out 100% he does not plan to play under the 5th year option. I don't want to spend all these resources on the secondary alone while having spent none on pass rushers.
Marlon, Thomas, Ramsey, Young and Jefferson and two 1sts. That's too much.