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Sami84 said:
yeah. This is true. Guys who have this kind of start never amount to anything and it has nothing to do with talent. He has it but some people just dont have the body for it

Tavon young is one of those guys too

can we stop paying fragile players too?
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Tavon missed an entire season before he got paid and one game. I wouldn’t say that’s a fragile player. He played like a missile and hit hard and made tackles. I can’t say we made a bad deal we just got unlucky man. He’s an up and coming player and we always talk about locking those guys down and we did and this happened. That’s the game you pick your poison
 
remember Webb? he was better than tavon but tore his ACL in 2009 and then we paid him shitloads 2 years later, then tears his ACL again.

new rule, never ever give a contract to someone so soon after an ACL tear
 
Sami84 said:
remember Webb? he was better than tavon but tore his ACL in 2009 and then we paid him shitloads 2 years later, then tears his ACL again.

new rule, never ever give a contract to someone so soon after an ACL tear
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Young didn't tear an acl, but I would agree with this statement

I also agree that TJ will be cut at the end of the season. We are going to be rebuilding this defense in the offseason. Maybe we need to take a page out of the Packers playbook.
 
rossihunter2 said:
this isnt a situation where hes not played well when on the field - this isnt breshad perriman at safety - elliott has done well on the field and has been awesome on special teams - he's just been unfortunate
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Never said talent was the issue. He’s been excellent, it’s a damn shame, but you just don’t see guys come out of 2 consecutive early season IRs to start their career and rebound, it’s just rare. That’s a massive uphill climb and I just don’t believe 99% of players can come back from this kind of start and be successful.
 
RavensMania said:
Young didn't tear an acl, but I would agree with this statement

I also agree that TJ will be cut at the end of the season. We are going to be rebuilding this defense in the offseason. Maybe we need to take a page out of the Packers playbook.
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potentially save 7m by cutting jefferson after this year (not sure if there's any health related guaranteed money - doubt it given its year 4 but likely have to settle for injuries anyway if he's not fully healthy by the time we got to cut him - if that's the case)

speaking of the packers... its hard to describe just how much we miss ZDS - 5 sacks in 5 games so far and he added so much diversity and explosion to our rush last year
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
Never said talent was the issue. He’s been excellent, it’s a damn shame, but you just don’t see guys come out of 2 consecutive early season IRs to start their career and rebound, it’s just rare. That’s a massive uphill climb and I just don’t believe 99% of players can come back from this kind of start and be successful.
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i dont know - i hope you're wrong
 
rossihunter2 said:
potentially save 7m by cutting jefferson after this year (not sure if there's any health related guaranteed money - doubt it given its year 4 but likely have to settle for injuries anyway if he's not fully healthy by the time we got to cut him - if that's the case)

speaking of the packers... its hard to describe just how much we miss ZDS - 5 sacks in 5 games so far and he added so much diversity and explosion to our rush last year
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totally miss ZDS.
 
Edgar said:
Zadarius improved noticeably every year.
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apart from year 1 to 2
but what's frustrating as a ravens fan is if we'd known that the trend would continue from year 4 to year 5 like this he probably would have been worth the money he got from the packers
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
Just seems like common sense to me with us having trouble with 3 major things: SS, ILB, and middle coverage in general
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i always worry about high picks who are drafted as hybrids
now it certainly helps that we play a lot of dime but do you really draft a guy high who you're basically drafting to be an A+ dimebacker and a hopefully good safety
 
rossihunter2 said:
i always worry about high picks who are drafted as hybrids
now it certainly helps that we play a lot of dime but do you really draft a guy high who you're basically drafting to be an A+ dimebacker and a hopefully good safety
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I don’t want him as a hybrid, I want him as a full time 3 down player, and I’m just pointing out that the guy is a starter at either ILB or SS and which ever one he looks better at is where he should play.

allblackraven said:
Yep, he's good but saying he's become EDC's favourite is how you start the rumours.
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Never had any intention of starting rumors and nobody should take what I say as any kind of report or info. I know nothing lol
 
In the weekly Other Teams discussion, I posted a couple of videos of why LA doesn't deserve a football team, let alone 2. What I don't understand is why did OUR home crowd sound so lackluster and underwhelming? Or maybe it's just me.....
 
rossihunter2 said:
i cant believe elliot's out - literally he'd just started to get snaps and he's out
what are the footballing gods punishing us for?

we've now lost 2 starting corners, 1 backup corner, 1 starting safety, 1 backup safety - that's outrageous amounts of losses in one secondary
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What was our strength... Jesus.

Sami84 said:
Jefferson is getting cut regardless.
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I think he's cut, too. Way too much cap freed. Right player, right price and his is steep. Not the fastest and coming back from an ACL. Wish him the best though.
 
Dom McRaven said:
In the weekly Other Teams discussion, I posted a couple of videos of why LA doesn't deserve a football team, let alone 2. What I don't understand is why did OUR home crowd sound so lackluster and underwhelming? Or maybe it's just me.....
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Wasn't you. Heard that the attendance wasn't the best. My guess would be because everyone thought we'd walk over the Bengals. I personally wouldn't have paid or wanted to attend this game, but that's me.
 
redrum52 said:
What was our strength... Jesus.



I think he's cut, too. Way too much cap freed. Right player, right price and his is steep. Not the fastest and coming back from an ACL. Wish him the best though.
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Not to mention that Jefferson was not playing well before he went down. Between that, his injury and his cost it seems a cut is inevitable.

The cut decision will be easier if Clark fills the role well. I know all focus is on Elliott since he went down but isn’t Clark the primary one who is really taking over his spot?
 
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