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- Thread starter The Greek
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but i dont see them all as that similar
burrow's cocky but he's not an asshole like rodgers who leans into being an abrasive asshole as part of his "mystique"
UPennChem
Hall of Famer
I hear you. It's absolutely the case Burrow is the best out of that list I posted.
JO_75
Hall of Famer
I don't have a problem with any of the off the field stuff with Burrow, it would be easier to like him if he played in any other division. Plus the Home Alone memes that have come with Burrow are funny lol.
With that said... we want the Bengals to lose because it's already bad he's in the Super Bowl before Lamar, but he wins one before him? Nah... Much rather see Stafford and Donald win one, plus Weddle too.
Tank
Hall of Famer
Cooper Kupp. The Man.
Tank
Hall of Famer
Give him a few years. lol
stumbled across this yesterday...
turns out there is probably a link between run success and play-action (that previous analytical models have not been able to find)
https://roguefootballanalytics.word...s-lead-to-improved-play-action-effectiveness/
and guess who the guy who did this study works for???
joined the ravens player personnel department in june 2021
but the tl;dr is that there is a relationship between run success and play-action success - but that the relationships is dependent on depth of targets - the shorter targets are effected by previous run success (in both the short and longer term) but deeper targets are not
turns out there is probably a link between run success and play-action (that previous analytical models have not been able to find)
https://roguefootballanalytics.word...s-lead-to-improved-play-action-effectiveness/
and guess who the guy who did this study works for???
joined the ravens player personnel department in june 2021
but the tl;dr is that there is a relationship between run success and play-action success - but that the relationships is dependent on depth of targets - the shorter targets are effected by previous run success (in both the short and longer term) but deeper targets are not
The world has tricked people into thinking that there is something wrong with being cocky.( they call it confidence depending who you are)
ndub
Ravens Ring of Honor
Is this not common sense lmao
There is absolutely some truth to this, but you can be confident, without being cocky.
Dom McRaven
Hall of Famer
In.....teresting.
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
Always felt this. Run success doesn’t do much for play action bombs, but when you freeze LBs you can hit seams and intermediate crossers to your TE much more effectively. It’s literally the most consistent and reliable play in the ravens playbook
it is - but for the last few years there's been tons of data around that basically says that the running game has no measurable impact on the play-action pass success which challenged assumptions about the importance of the running game in setting up play-action
what this data shows is that there is a connection but it clarifies a couple of things
1) the connection is only there on shorter throws off play-action and there's no obvious relationship between running game success and play-action success on deep throws and that's because DBs mostly dont have run fits or gap responsibilities in the running game the same way linebackers do so they're as unaffected by the run-fake part of play-action as they would be on a run play
2) it doesn't take much running or success to be effective on play-action and take advantage of that wasted motion by the linebackers who have to read run first so the correlation isnt huge
and it's why RPOs are so effective over the middle of the field with slants etc. - not only are you creating conflict with a mesh, you also get to make the LB wrong - if they dont come down on the mesh then you hand-off and next time they'll have to respect the run or you'll just keep gashing them on the ground - if they do come down then you know the space is behind them
Tank
Hall of Famer
I think running analytical models like this is interesting and can provide some value, but there are so many factors that can make the data used somewhat subjective. Talent levels of the players, weather, playing surfaces, etc., etc., all can affect play selection/play success. It's useful, but not definitive I think.
which is why they use 1000s of points of data (more than 10000 in this case) and added in controls and adjusted for lots of different factors (including quality of players and teams etc.)...
Tank
Hall of Famer
Right. Dependent on selection of added in controls and what adjustments made for which factors, still somewhat subjective. Useful, but not definitive.
BoredMarine13
Ravens Ring of Honor
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...r-failed-breakfast-invitation-to-pro-bowlers/
Chad Johnson Invited some pro bowlers to ihop, no one showed up, he ate alone, and then tipped $1,000 on a $37 check. I miss the hey day of Ocho Cinco. His in game antics were classic.
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Chad Johnson Invited some pro bowlers to ihop, no one showed up, he ate alone, and then tipped $1,000 on a $37 check. I miss the hey day of Ocho Cinco. His in game antics were classic.
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SepticeyePoe
Hall of Famer
Man, I loved ihop when I was a kid.
That's kinda sad that no one would go eat with him.
He talked A LOT, but by all accounts, he seems like a good and fun dude.