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rossihunter2 said:
not every coach is fired for failing lol...
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I mean I think most HC's are fired for "failing". I suppose there might be a few that failed for like being alcoholics or something, but that's fairly rare.

Like even Andy Reid got fired for "failing". He failed to make the playoffs his last two years in Philly, and hadn't won a playoff game in 4 years. It's not like colossal failure, but its failure, based on whatever the expectations were.

Coordinators and assistants routinely get fired no matter how good or bad they were. They're pretty much tied to the person that hired them. If Harbaugh gets fired, pretty good chance Roman and MacDonald are getting fired too, regardless of how good or bad they've been.

But I agree there's really no such thing as hiring a HC, coordinator, or assistant, who hasn't been fired for some sort of "failure" in their past. Otherwise you're just hiring somebody with basically no coaching experience at all. Basically just hire like Matt Birk to coach the team.
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
Do you know what it means to be deliberately obtuse?
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Sizzle said:
So I'm stupid for thinking that the coaches who were failures for their teams to the point of being fired, were failures as coaches? No sir, do you know the definition of deliberately obtuse?
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rossihunter2 said:
not every coach is fired for failing lol...
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90% of coaches are fired for some degree of failure... or they move on because the firing is coming. But if you look at failure from the perspective of an alternator belt on a car it rarely breaks requiring replacement, it just wears out and the tech at the garage finds it and replaces it.

There are a lot of "techs" here - and hopefully in the Ravens' FO - that think it's about time some of the "belts" on the Ravens' coaching staff were changed. How much of an overhaul occurs remains to be seen.

Ross thinks you replace the alternator, spark plugs, sparkalator wires, battery, all the fuses you can find... but that is an expensive proposition when you can switch out the damn frayed belt and see how the rest of the vehicle performs first to evaluate. If it runs as it should or better than before with the new belt you're done and there's no need for the other expensive changes. This convo is boring, tho.
 
drjohnnyfever said:
90% of coaches are fired for some degree of failure... or they move on because the firing is coming. But if you look at failure from the perspective of an alternator belt on a car it rarely breaks requiring replacement, it just wears out and the tech at the garage finds it and replaces it.

There are a lot of "techs" here - and hopefully in the Ravens' FO - that think it's about time some of the "belts" on the Ravens' coaching staff were changed. How much of an overhaul occurs remains to be seen.

Ross thinks you replace the alternator, spark plugs, sparkalator wires, battery, all the fuses you can find... but that is an expensive proposition when you can switch out the damn frayed belt and see how the rest of the vehicle performs first to evaluate. If it runs as it should or better than before with the new belt you're done and there's no need for the other expensive changes. This convo is boring, tho.
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Lol you’re putting words in my mouth…

When have I ever suggested we clean house?
 
rossihunter2 said:
Lol you’re putting words in my mouth…

When have I ever suggested we clean house?
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Hyperbole. ;)

But, you value players as easily replaceable - I think. They make mistakes. I accept that. But when different players make the same and similar mistakes consistently within a system, it isn't all them. Someone is coaching them. I start with that guy.

Belt change in lane 2, maybe lane 1 too.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
I mean I think most HC's are fired for "failing". I suppose there might be a few that failed for like being alcoholics or something, but that's fairly rare.

Like even Andy Reid got fired for "failing". He failed to make the playoffs his last two years in Philly, and hadn't won a playoff game in 4 years. It's not like colossal failure, but its failure, based on whatever the expectations were.

Coordinators and assistants routinely get fired no matter how good or bad they were. They're pretty much tied to the person that hired them. If Harbaugh gets fired, pretty good chance Roman and MacDonald are getting fired too, regardless of how good or bad they've been.

But I agree there's really no such thing as hiring a HC, coordinator, or assistant, who hasn't been fired for some sort of "failure" in their past. Otherwise you're just hiring somebody with basically no coaching experience at all. Basically just hire like Matt Birk to coach the team.
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Jeff Saturday was hired and never got fired from anywhere.
 
drjohnnyfever said:
Hyperbole. ;)

But, you value players as easily replaceable - I think. They make mistakes. I accept that. But when different players make the same and similar mistakes consistently within a system, it isn't all them. Someone is coaching them. I start with that guy.

Belt change in lane 2, maybe lane 1 too.
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When have I said any of those things???
 
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