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Head Coaching Candidates

allblackraven

Hall of Famer
I have been a Harbaugh critic for awhile now .I don't think hes a good clock manager and some of his hires have been mediocre but I have to say
that I think he has done a fairly good job this year considering the Flacco injury and had uprighted the freefall we had prior to the bye week.

Let's see how the rest of the season goes.
He doesn't get a pass from me (too bad nobody gives a fuck what I think). Young players don't get a chance unless he doesn't have anybody else to put in. We were destined for another 8-8 or worse season before the injuries forced him to put together better team.
That's not to say we won't end up 500 again but at least we saw the Ravens having fun on the field.
 

RavensMania

Staff Member
Administrator
He doesn't get a pass from me (too bad nobody gives a fuck what I think). Young players don't get a chance unless he doesn't have anybody else to put in. We were destined for another 8-8 or worse season before the injuries forced him to put together better team.
That's not to say we won't end up 500 again but at least we saw the Ravens having fun on the field.
The young players really gets the goat with me. Seriously, shouldn’t it be about getting the best 11 on the field and doesn’t he take input from his coordinators. Not only does he have issues with rookies, but assistant coach hires haven’t been the greatest and then forcing them to run a system that may not be to the benefit of the assistant that was hired.
 

RavensMania

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... McCarthy is most likely to sit out 2019 unless the right opportunity opened up, according to sources (opinion) Baltimore is one of those that he wouldn’t pass up.
 

RavensMania

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Here is a name that hasn’t been brought up or atleast I didn’t see it posted in this thread. The Chiefs OC, Eric Bienemy. Reid calls his own games, but Bienemy is a big part of putting the game plan together. I could see him being a successful head coach.
 
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Dom McRaven

Hall of Famer
Here is a name that hasn’t been brought up or atleast I didn’t see it posted in this thread. The Chiefs OC, Eric Bienemy. Reid calls his own games, but Bienemy is a big part of putting the game plan together. I could see him being a successful head coach.
Hmmm. I'm sure he could do wonders with Lamar especially since he has a Super Saiyan version of him in Mahomes.
 

rossihunter2

Staff Member
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Here is a name that hasn’t been brought up or atleast I didn’t see it posted in this thread. The Chiefs OC, Eric Bienemy. Reid calls his own games, but Bienemy is a big part of putting the game plan together. I could see him being a successful head coach.

given what's happened in cleveland with freddie kitchens im more and more ok with having a playcaller come in with no playcalling experience (because there's only one way to get that experience lol)

on a related note here's the Fritz Pollard Alliance list of recommendations of minority HC candidates for this offseason (or future offseasons):

  • Keith Armstrong, Falcons
  • Teryl Austin, unemployed
  • Eric Bieniemy, Chiefs
  • Jim Caldwell, unemployed
  • George Edwards, Vikings
  • Brian Flores, Patriots
  • Leslie Frazier, Bills
  • Hue Jackson, Bengals
  • Raheem Morris, Falcons
  • Kris Richard, Cowboys
  • Duce Staley, Eagles
only Steve Wilks was hired off that list last year for some context

now obviously there's some absolute no gos on that list lol
 

Willbacker

Ravens Ring of Honor
Here is a name that hasn’t been brought up or atleast I didn’t see it posted in this thread. The Chiefs OC, Eric Bienemy. Reid calls his own games, but Bienemy is a big part of putting the game plan together. I could see him being a successful head coach.

I remember watching with my wife one time and she thought the announcer was calling the other team " the enemy " and couldn't understand why.

given what's happened in cleveland with freddie kitchens im more and more ok with having a playcaller come in with no playcalling experience (because there's only one way to get that experience lol)

on a related note here's the Fritz Pollard Alliance list of recommendations of minority HC candidates for this offseason (or future offseasons):

  • Keith Armstrong, Falcons
  • Teryl Austin, unemployed
  • Eric Bieniemy, Chiefs
  • Jim Caldwell, unemployed
  • George Edwards, Vikings
  • Brian Flores, Patriots
  • Leslie Frazier, Bills
  • Hue Jackson, Bengals
  • Raheem Morris, Falcons
  • Kris Richard, Cowboys
  • Duce Staley, Eagles
only Steve Wilks was hired off that list last year for some context

now obviously there's some absolute no gos on that list lol

No names really jump off that list ( except Austin ) but Harbaugh was an unknown at the time he was hired too.
 

Grim

Ravens Ring of Honor
I know I’m in a small minority but I don’t think Harbaugh is the problem with this team. I do think Marty is an issue and I do agree Harbaugh has input there but don’t forget that it was Joe who advocated for Marty to return not John. Also let’s not forget Marty had to adjust for Flacco leaving and I’m sure that was a challenge in itself. I personally don’t really want Marty around and would love an upgrade there. That being said, John did say Marty “believes in running the football” and he’s proven that lately.
 

JO_75

Hall of Famer
I know I’m in a small minority but I don’t think Harbaugh is the problem with this team. I do think Marty is an issue and I do agree Harbaugh has input there but don’t forget that it was Joe who advocated for Marty to return not John. Also let’s not forget Marty had to adjust for Flacco leaving and I’m sure that was a challenge in itself. I personally don’t really want Marty around and would love an upgrade there. That being said, John did say Marty “believes in running the football” and he’s proven that lately.

I'd try to bring back Kubiak as OC if we could. Marty believes in running the football until he doesn't and we sit there pondering why Collins only got 4 carries the whole second half. Kubiak at this point wouldn't be looking for a HC position with his health issues so we can finish what we started to build with him offensively.
 

allblackraven

Hall of Famer
I know I’m in a small minority but I don’t think Harbaugh is the problem with this team. I do think Marty is an issue and I do agree Harbaugh has input there but don’t forget that it was Joe who advocated for Marty to return not John. Also let’s not forget Marty had to adjust for Flacco leaving and I’m sure that was a challenge in itself. I personally don’t really want Marty around and would love an upgrade there. That being said, John did say Marty “believes in running the football” and he’s proven that lately.
He is a problem. He is hiring all his staff and had way more misses than hits on offense. Also not quickly diagnosing issue, so Pees is allowed to stuff up for years.

It's been enough.
 

rossihunter2

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I'd try to bring back Kubiak as OC if we could. Marty believes in running the football until he doesn't and we sit there pondering why Collins only got 4 carries the whole second half. Kubiak at this point wouldn't be looking for a HC position with his health issues so we can finish what we started to build with him offensively.

kubiak is not a fit for lamar i dont think
 

rossihunter2

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He is a problem. He is hiring all his staff and had way more misses than hits on offense. Also not quickly diagnosing issue, so Pees is allowed to stuff up for years.

It's been enough.

Harbs is a great leader and organisational head but his own lack of specialism on offence or defence means he's too reliant on coordinators which would be fine but he's not got a good enough eye for self-scouting scheme and playcalling-wise
 

RavensMania

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Administrator
I'd try to bring back Kubiak as OC if we could. Marty believes in running the football until he doesn't and we sit there pondering why Collins only got 4 carries the whole second half. Kubiak at this point wouldn't be looking for a HC position with his health issues so we can finish what we started to build with him offensively.
Kubiak rarely runs his offense in shot gun and always has the zone blocking scheme. Yes, we need to change some players on the OL, but Orlando Brown really isn't a fit in a ZBS. I'd rather have a power scheme anyways, tbh
 

RavensMania

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Harbs is a great leader and organisational head but his own lack of specialism on offence or defence means he's too reliant on coordinators which would be fine but he's not got a good enough eye for self-scouting scheme and playcalling-wise
that's the really big issue
 

JO_75

Hall of Famer
... McCarthy is most likely to sit out 2019 unless the right opportunity opened up, according to sources (opinion) Baltimore is one of those that he wouldn’t pass up.

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Willbacker

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Kubiak rarely runs his offense in shot gun and always has the zone blocking scheme. Yes, we need to change some players on the OL, but Orlando Brown really isn't a fit in a ZBS. I'd rather have a power scheme anyways, tbh

I believe Oklahoma runs a zone blocking scheme.
 

rossihunter2

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hmmmm, still wouldn't fit Kubiak (shot gun), but maybe Lincoln Riley would coach Lamar Jackson Especially with Mark Andrews and OBJ on the team

i dont really mind the zbs but the issue with kubiak for me is more the under centre offence he would run (or historically has always run) - when lamar came in we automatically operated some more zone blocking elements into the running game albeit we still use a lot of power too
 
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