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The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: Week 14 Edition

It's lamentable the dearth of hitters on this defense. Steelers offensive SKILL players are more physical. I lose count of how many times I saw three raven defenders unable to even bring Bell to the ground prior to a whistle.

Just to add.....

On "UNDISPUTED" today...in reference to speaking about the upcoming match up between the Steelers and the Patriots, here is what the guys said;

Shannon: "Steelers, you better be on your best behavior because he (Brady) saw what Joe Flacco did to you (putting up 38 pts). Now, I'd like to think, even though Baltimore have some nice offensive talent, I still, even with Gronk coming back, I believe the offensive talent at the SKILL positions for New England is better than what Baltimore had on Sunday night."

Rob Ryan: "Oh! There is no question! I think New England comes into this game, they're embarrassed but offensively they're going to be all over Pittsburgh!"
 
2019 is the year this team has options. Flacco will be gone, Harbaugh will be gone.. Suddenly cap opens up.
 
Ill try and be an optimist here:

Humphrey was not afraid of the moment, and the steelers seemed to have more respect for him than they did Carr. For his first trip to Pittsburgh??? Cant expect much more from a 21 year old. Next year Carr wont be here, and we'll have Smith, Humphrey, and Young as our starters.

Bowser also had himself a good game. Just hope this gives him more playing time

Our Oline played exceptionally well, and we may have found a feature back in Collins. I totally underestimated his potential.

Flacco also seems to be playing much better given his limited options. Other than the first drive pick he played good enough to win the game.

As for the disapointments.....

Boy oh boy did our safeties look slow. Weddle and Jefferson are cleary mismatches for tightends and running backs....its sad because those were supposed to be their strengths...we need more size and range at the safety position!(Ronnie Harrison?) I expect jefferson to take a paycut. Hes been very underwhelming this year. Too bad Malik Hooker didnt declare a year later...

Mosely really is half man half amazing. By that i mean hes inconsistent. Some games he looks amazing. Other times he looks like a JAG (Just a guy)

Where the hell is the Tim Williams we saw at alabama??? He looks so stiff and gets no pressure. He had plenty of reps vs the steelers and was a total liability as a pass rusher. Really hope he makes strides in year 2 because i dont see him fixing it this year.

Chris Moore looked like our best reciever yesterday....not a good sign.


Dean Pees needs to retire....im sick of these blown leads under him...



How do you figure? He seems to get open and is making tough catches.......that a great sign if you ask me. A young receiver looking better than the vets? YES PLEASE AND I WILL TAKE 2

Seriously, there is something about him the last couple of weeks that's different
 
right now, if flacco is what he is showing us, we can have cheap option for 4 years who can do what he does and probably better. Unless Boller is your fear.

Price is not what is hurting us right now. We can spend a boat on a player of your liking outside of QB and will not change our situation with who is calling plays
 
Price is not what is hurting us right now. We can spend a boat on a player of your liking outside of QB and will not change our situation with who is calling plays
I also think Flacco has played great football the last two weeks when claiming he is finally healthy. He had the one bad pick but overall the past few weeks he has been solid.
 
How do you figure? He seems to get open and is making tough catches.......that a great sign if you ask me. A young receiver looking better than the vets? YES PLEASE AND I WILL TAKE 2

Seriously, there is something about him the last couple of weeks that's different
And now hes hurt with a hip injury
 
People went in on Jimmy and it wasn't this bad. Most of those on Carr can be attributed to lack of a pass rush. I just can't get that last dagger out of my mind with the half ass jam that gives Brown separation. I'm not going to hold a grudge though. Carr has been pretty damn good for us so can't be mad.

I'd just like to know why with all these rushers we drafted we aren't more creative in ways to get them on the field especially on 3rd and longs.
I don't know that we can pin Carr's completions to the lack of a pass rush. Now obviously the fact that we were sending extra bodies without getting home was one of the biggest reasons behind the shredding. And the lack of help put him in a precarious position. But in Carr's case, he struggled early and often despite covering the first read on throws that occurred prior the 3 second mark.

I haven't charted the entire game on his behalf, but I can state that it likely begun with the 8 yard completion to Martavis Bryant. Bryant was the first read, Ben Roethlisberger took a short drop from the shotgun while looking off the safety, and then darted the throw to Bryant on the out route. In a similar scenario, Roethlisberger targeted Brown, running a fade route, on what would've been a 29 yard TD had it been throw just inside of the chalk (Link). The following 28 yard and 43 yard completions to Brown were in an almost identical scenario, the only difference being that he didn't look the safety off. All of the three shots on the fades were against coverages with a single-high safety where we didn't roll (Which falls onto the DC to at least some extent), with more to follow. Then came the completion to Bryant on a 7 yard hitch. Similar variables with the short drop and an offload to the first read. Same goes for the following DPI in the end zone on the wheel route by Brown. And the same for the final 34 yard completion, which had the longest time to throw of the bunch at 2.52 seconds. I ran a stop watch from the moment of each snap until the balls were thrown, and I came to an average of 2.1 seconds between those plays.

Several mentions should be made in that multiple of these throws were spectacular, they were thrown to an other-worldly WR, and it wasn't all to fair to count on Carr in basically 1v1s given that the middle-third safety isn't likely to cover the distance in time. That being said, I would hope to see a starting LCB to be able to at least somewhat handle himself on throws made just over 2 seconds into the play as very little pressure typically arrives before the 2.5 mark barring a breakdown in protection. By my count, he gave up at least 120 yards, not withstanding the missed TD connection, of which Carr has somewhat been fortunate on the season considering Roethlisberger's clear miss to what would've been a deep score to Bryant against Carr in our first meeting. Same goes for Andy Dalton's miss to Cody Core. Despite that, Carr has noticeably slowed down as the season's progressed. He's has currently allowed the 15th most yards allowed behind Jalen Mills, even with the multiple missed deep throws in his direction, and he's roughly in the Top 10 in yards allowed per reception with 14.4. Bouncing back at least some of his behalf would give us a boost down the stretch.
 
It feels weird to say this but I think we missed ZDS vs Steelers. With him playing, we are usually pressuring more inside, which helps edge rush a lot. He's obviously not as good as McPhee was in that role but valuable presence nevertheless.
 
It feels weird to say this but I think we missed ZDS vs Steelers. With him playing, we are usually pressuring more inside, which helps edge rush a lot. He's obviously not as good as McPhee was in that role but valuable presence nevertheless.

he's also an extra body that we missed on the edges given that we had 89 total snaps of defence to dish out - especially given that wormley got no snaps as a replacement we essentially lost 35 snaps (in a normal defensive game - but this game had at least an extra 25% and probably more like 33% snaps than a normal defensive game)
 
Just to add.....

On "UNDISPUTED" today...in reference to speaking about the upcoming match up between the Steelers and the Patriots, here is what the guys said;

Shannon: "Steelers, you better be on your best behavior because he (Brady) saw what Joe Flacco did to you (putting up 38 pts). Now, I'd like to think, even though Baltimore have some nice offensive talent, I still, even with Gronk coming back, I believe the offensive talent at the SKILL positions for New England is better than what Baltimore had on Sunday night."

Rob Ryan: "Oh! There is no question! I think New England comes into this game, they're embarrassed but offensively they're going to be all over Pittsburgh!"
You know, the Patriots can be pissed off all they want, but if they don't win, their emotions are irrelevant.
 
You know, the Patriots can be pissed off all they want, but if they don't win, their emotions are irrelevant.
I hate when people try to talk up about Brady being angry or energized. Seriously just stop. Ray, Suggs, or any of other players never needed that. They came into every game giving 100% no matter what.
 
I hate when people try to talk up about Brady being angry or energized. Seriously just stop. Ray, Suggs, or any of other players never needed that. They came into every game giving 100% no matter what.
Yeah but Ray and Suggs aren't/weren't wearing skirts.
 
I also think Flacco has played great football the last two weeks when claiming he is finally healthy. He had the one bad pick but overall the past few weeks he has been solid.

recently he has shown a bit more
 
You know, the Patriots can be pissed off all they want, but if they don't win, their emotions are irrelevant.

The post wasn't about the Patriots perse but a confirmation to @Edgar comments about the Steelers offensive "SKILL" positions being better than the Ravens.

The guys on the show simply mentioned the same thing but in the context of their upcoming match up with the Steelers and how that the Patriots offensive "SKILL" positions are also better than the Ravens.
 
I hate when people try to talk up about Brady being angry or energized. Seriously just stop. Ray, Suggs, or any of other players never needed that. They came into every game giving 100% no matter what.
To me, this goes with EVERYONE, not just Brady. I mean, you're getting paid millions of dollars to do a job and do it well. You BETTER care. It's cool and all that they have passion when they lose, but if they lose games, well.....so much for passion.

The post wasn't about the Patriots perse but a confirmation to @Edgar comments about the Steelers offensive "SKILL" positions being better than the Ravens.

The guys on the show simply mentioned the same thing but in the context of their upcoming match up with the Steelers and how that the Patriots offensive "SKILL" positions are also better than the Ravens.
I hear ya, but like my previous post, it was more towards the "Steelers got to play a pissed off Brady" narrative. Same thing with us. The Browns are gonna "play a pissed off Ravens team." Well what happens if the Browns beat this pissed off Ravens team? What then (rhetoric question)?
 
To me, this goes with EVERYONE, not just Brady. I mean, you're getting paid millions of dollars to do a job and do it well. You BETTER care. It's cool and all that they have passion when they lose, but if they lose games, well.....so much for passion.


I hear ya, but like my previous post, it was more towards the "Steelers got to play a pissed off Brady" narrative. Same thing with us. The Browns are gonna "play a pissed off Ravens team." Well what happens if the Browns beat this pissed off Ravens team? What then (rhetoric question)?
Well if we lose a game, the Browns game is the game we can afford to lose. Indy and bengals are common opponent games.
 
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