1st round talent who's falling for injury and character reasons
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2022 NFL Draft Gameday Thread
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1st round talent who's falling for injury and character reasons
Dom McRaven
Hall of Famer
*insert optimistic reaction*
D1City55
Pro Bowler
His talent is insane, IMO first round pick if it weren't for the injuries.
SepticeyePoe
Hall of Famer
Would you take him over the remaining CBs and pass rushers?
whole thread of intelligent people talking intelligently about the ravens and the picks
interesting schematic points about hamilton and linderbaum in there
it's tough because i dont know how bad the character concerns are and idk whether there's any lingering effects from the injuries
but on a tape basis he's the 2nd highest graded remaining player on the board
Andrew Booth
George Pickens
they're the only 2 remaining guys on my board with 1st round grades
so from a purely tape-based grading standpoint... yes... as long as it's not booth
my only question with this viewpoint is...
if you're gonna take a QB at 33-40 or somewhere like that... then trade up into the backend of the 1st round and get the 5th year option on Malik Willis for that 5th year of control that gives you extra time to develop or if it pans out, then an extra year of cheaper control before you have to play the franchise tag game
i dont think we go crazy with trade ups
zrebiec reckons we'll make 3 - but ill also point out that EDC seems pumped every time he talks about the 4th round
I liked him alot..
huge fan of Chenal. Think he is a better version of hightower in his prime. I also like Muma and Tindall. To me, Harris is a wlb and I'd prefer all of these to him. just not a fan of Harris
lots of picks and picking high
i like tindall and i like muma - probably thinking of those guys more as guys id be ok with in R3 - Muma's more of a 4-3 sam to me but i think he could definitely develop into a 3-4 ILB - love how he processes and reads the backfield in coverage - periphs in zone really well although id like to see more active awareness to pick up crossers
his lack of play-strength does put me off him a little although he uses his quickness to work through traffic to somewhat mitigate it
tindall's almost the opposite - impressive with his run-fits, aggressive with his take-ons, sideline-to-sideline explosive range, very little coverage responsibility so far because of the other 2 Georgia LBs
ive got the same grade on tindall and muma with them stacked close to on top of each other
but ive got malcolm rodriguez in that stack with them too - he was a breath of fresh air when i got to him after slogging through a bunch of guys across multiple positions with ho hum day 3 tape... and with his great athleticism, good processing, good take-on technique i loved watching him - he's just a little smaller than the other guys at his position - but there was a part of me that was watching him and asking the question... do i really think nakobe dean is multiple grades better than this guy...
and to me, I'm not sure Nakobe Dean is a fit, but I'm sure Macdonald would find a way to use him to his strengths if we drafted him.
rmcjacket23
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Would imagine we'll pick at least three times tonight. I just can't see us actually drafting six guys in the fourth (or seven guys total on day 3). I think we'll package some 4ths to move up and down, especially if we get into later 2nd round or early 3rd round.
I will be highly disappointed if we don't come away with at least one pass rusher tonight. Possibly two.
I will be highly disappointed if we don't come away with at least one pass rusher tonight. Possibly two.
ok what im not here for is the NFL showing the lamar "wtf" tweet and saying he was pissed but not showing the follow up where he said that it wasnt anything about his new C
and also not taking in the context that lamar knew the trade was happening
that said he also talked about how remarkable it is that in this day and age no one knew this was coming... and yet another reminder that nothing leaks out of the ravens ever - any stuff you hear about the ravens is either out there on purpose or it's come from agents because even the beat guys dont share everything (until after stuff has happened)
and also not taking in the context that lamar knew the trade was happening
that said he also talked about how remarkable it is that in this day and age no one knew this was coming... and yet another reminder that nothing leaks out of the ravens ever - any stuff you hear about the ravens is either out there on purpose or it's come from agents because even the beat guys dont share everything (until after stuff has happened)
rmcjacket23
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I think its generally a bit overrated though.
1) the fifth year option for these QBs are going to be $25-30M by the time these guys get one, and that's straight cap
2) if they're actually good and are worth of an extension (or franchise tag), unless they're going the Cousins and possibly Lamar route, they're getting extended after year 3 or after year 4 at the latest. Most of these actual franchise QBs never get franchise tagged.
I'm not saying the 5th year option is useless, but, I think the perception that it's critical for QBs is a bit overvalued.
Especially when you consider that future 5th year options are fully guaranteed. So you really only get 3 years to decide whether you're going to use it anyway, because you have to pick it up before year 4. So if you take a developmental QB who doesn't play until year 2, you've got two years to figure out whether you're going to pay him close to $30M on a one year deal.