Oldfaithful
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Knowing Harbaugh he’s probably gone. It’ll be Antwan Barnes all over again. Good pass rusher gets cut because of attitude and goes on to be good elsewhere.
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The Offensive Line Thread
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JoeyFlex5
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Fuck the attitude man, it’s ridiculous, football is about winning. We won a fucking super bowl when our team leaders with the most attitude stepped the fuck up and told harbaugh to get his shit straight, then when those same guys got shipped out we fell into a spiral of mediocrity that lasted 6 years.
Talent wins games, don’t ask Tim Williams to be your fucking team captain, ask him to rush the fucking qb on third down, done deal, do that simple fucking thing and we are a better team plain and simple
I mean did this spiral exist though? Barring losing their best offensive and defensive players they were a SB team just 2 years later and the following year decided to be that time that has their entire roster go on IR.
allblackraven
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I was and am probably the loudest in calling for Harbaugh's head on these boards. Timmy was my favourite guy from that Bama team.
Still, JH is 100% right in this case.
Oldfaithful
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2 playoff appearances since 2012, and mediocre drafting = mediocrity.
So yes. We haven't beaten a good team since 2014. Even though we made the playoffs we meet a worthy defenses and they put us in our place.
So yes. Injuries are just an excuse for poor general manager decisions if we are being honest. If 100% of your defense falls apart, there's more than just coaching to blame
JoeyFlex5
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You can’t say that and expect us to agree without knowing what you’re referring to lol
allblackraven
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I know you can't, that's OK.
JoeyFlex5
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Why can’t you say vaguely what happened?
allblackraven
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Promised I won't
Oldfaithful
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@Grim Do your thing
ill be slightly less vague (without knowing if allblack is referring to anything specific) and say many of the things keeping timmy off the field are self-inflicted and he was in no shape to see the field down the stretch last year - the coaches know he's talented and want him to succeed (he was getting decent snaps in high leverage downs early in his 2nd year in the league which tells you they trust him at football) but its on him to sort himself out
its really good that he's at all the voluntary offseason stuff because by all accounts the stuff that goes wrong for him mentally and physically seems to be when he's not at the castle and that's all i can really say
JoeyFlex5
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so is it really him just fucking off to some crazy extent when hes not focused and at work? or was he like actually getting into some bad shit?
ill say its most definitely self-inflicted and nothing bad that i know of and leave it at that
cdp
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I don't have the numbers to back this, but I think or at least it seems that offensive linemen take longer to get used to the NFL level (e.g. Stance, techniques and scheme) Do you want to wait 2 seasons until they're ready? I can see why they're reluctant to draft one high (Wagner and Jensen), in 2016 Stanley wasn't their nr. 1,2 or 3 priority according to reports. But it's still questionable to not draft any OL high
redrum52
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I hated how we "used" Barnes. Was a favorite of mine.
Oldfaithful
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allblackraven
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From br.com:
Oldfaithful
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Competition = Hurst winning. Nothing to see here
interesting notes from minicamps now that Yanda's back... despite Hurst practicing at RG while Yanda was out the 1st team OL in minicamp day 1 looked like this (N.B. Alex Lewis was out but i dont think it really changes anything unless he absolutely owns the offseason)
Stanley, ELUEMUNOR, Skura, Yanda, Brown
interesting that Eluemunor got first crack - it may not stay that way but Joe D'Allesandris has said its an open competition at LG and that's the way he likes it and as much as Jermaine's not been great at times, he's also started at LT on minimal practice for us and done ok and has massively improved every year that he's played - in my eyes it's the 4th most likely option at LG for this 2019 season but if he wins the competition then fair play and at least it means hes beaten out hurst if thats the case
of course it might just be the case that he's getting the first crack at it in an open competition and they'll rotate a lot through minicamp and training camp until they get the combination they like the most
the way D'Allesandris talks about Ben Powers though i would say he's got a chance to win this competition but the rookie's never going to be starting on the OL until at least training camp when the pads are on and theres some contact
Stanley, ELUEMUNOR, Skura, Yanda, Brown
interesting that Eluemunor got first crack - it may not stay that way but Joe D'Allesandris has said its an open competition at LG and that's the way he likes it and as much as Jermaine's not been great at times, he's also started at LT on minimal practice for us and done ok and has massively improved every year that he's played - in my eyes it's the 4th most likely option at LG for this 2019 season but if he wins the competition then fair play and at least it means hes beaten out hurst if thats the case
of course it might just be the case that he's getting the first crack at it in an open competition and they'll rotate a lot through minicamp and training camp until they get the combination they like the most
the way D'Allesandris talks about Ben Powers though i would say he's got a chance to win this competition but the rookie's never going to be starting on the OL until at least training camp when the pads are on and theres some contact
Oldfaithful
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Genius move. Starting Eluemenor will ensure that Lamar dies on the football field and that we get Trevor in 2021. LETS GOOOOO