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Lamar Jackson

Dom McRaven said:
IF (again, the biggest IF in recent Ravens history) he leaves, the Dolphins are the only team I could see him going to barring a Lamar or Josh Allen level progression from Tua.
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I'm not so sure. The only place that could draw him out of Baltimore will be the LA Rams, for the reasons I cited. He is a very shrewd young man.
 
Dom McRaven said:
IF (again, the biggest IF in recent Ravens history) he leaves, the Dolphins are the only team I could see him going to barring a Lamar or Josh Allen level progression from Tua.
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Luckily, we're in a position to SEND him to whoever gives us the most capital for him. And this is true for this year and next. But doing him the solid of arranging a landing spot, if he doesn't see Baltimore being it, or us not wanting to put half of the team's payroll into one guy, then we should be preparing for life without Lamar in either case.
 
I'm pretty sure some media members put this out there just hoping it takes on a life of its own to cause a rift. It's easier to ignore the noise.
 
Is this satire

www.baltimoresun.com

Lamar Jackson is a selfish football player | READER COMMENTARY

Based on his actions, I think it is quite obvious Lamar Jackson is not a team player for the Baltimore Ravens (“Ravens QB Lamar Jackson absent from OTAs as he enters final year of rookie contract: ‘It’s up to him,'”…
www.baltimoresun.com www.baltimoresun.com
 
rmcjacket23 said:
1. Agree with Rossi. I don't know why the Ravens would get outbid by anybody.
2. If it happened, it wouldn't happen until 2025.
The only thing preventing Lamar from being here for the next three years is a career-changing injury, or him falling flat on his face for the next two years. Like playing at a backup level.
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Not out bid , just not willing to meet the asking price, the highest paid QB. 5th year option is more than manageable, 2023 and 2024 tag numbers start getting excessive. Don’t see the Ravens picking up both. Hopefully they get a fair deal done in the near future, but If Lamar and the Ravens can’t get a deal done by next summer I don’t believe he will be here in 2024. I also said the Ravens shouldn’t and wouldn’t pick up Hollywood’s 5th year option and people laughed but here we are. Who knows , a lot can happen in two years. Just wouldn’t shock me to see this one go either way.
 
rossihunter2 said:
cant read this coz the Sun isnt available in europe - but guessing this was written by Preston?
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Pryzbylewski's cousin wrote that crap

Based on his actions, I think it is quite obvious Lamar Jackson is not a team player for the Baltimore Ravens (”Ravens QB Lamar Jackson absent from OTAs as he enters final year of rookie contract: ‘It’s up to him,’” May 25). He is a prima donna and thinks the entire season and future of the Ravens is based on him because “He is Lamar.” I’ll be glad to see him leave and to find a quarterback who cares more about the Ravens than himself.

Maybe we should dump Lamar Jackson before he dumps the Ravens!

— Stas Chrzanowski, Baltimore
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BoredMarine13 said:
Not out bid , just not willing to meet the asking price, the highest paid QB. 5th year option is more than manageable, 2023 and 2024 tag numbers start getting excessive. Don’t see the Ravens picking up both. Hopefully they get a fair deal done in the near future, but If Lamar and the Ravens can’t get a deal done by next summer I don’t believe he will be here in 2024. I also said the Ravens shouldn’t and wouldn’t pick up Hollywood’s 5th year option and people laughed but here we are. Who knows , a lot can happen in two years. Just wouldn’t shock me to see this one go either way.
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1. I don't think the Ravens would have hesitated to pick up Hollywood's option. It really wasn't their decision to deal him, and the 5th year option for him wouldn't have been that expensive anyway. They didn't pick up the option because they traded him before they had to. They didn't trade him because they didn't want to pay him next year.
2. Really don't see why the franchise tags are too expensive. If the Ravens think they're too expensive, then why are you signing him long term? His long term cap hits are going to be every bit as expensive, if not more-so. Not like you can sign a guy to a $45-50M AAV contract and not have years where he'll count at least that much.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
1. I don't think the Ravens would have hesitated to pick up Hollywood's option. It really wasn't their decision to deal him, and the 5th year option for him wouldn't have been that expensive anyway. They didn't pick up the option because they traded him before they had to. They didn't trade him because they didn't want to pay him next year.
2. Really don't see why the franchise tags are too expensive. If the Ravens think they're too expensive, then why are you signing him long term? His long term cap hits are going to be every bit as expensive, if not more-so. Not like you can sign a guy to a $45-50M AAV contract and not have years where he'll count at least that much.
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1. It wasn’t the cost of the 5th year option, it was the cost of the follow on contract. Ravens FO was smart to deal him now while he had value and easily afffordable for another team under that option. Hollywood knew we weren’t paying, so he and DeCosta worked out a great trade for both sides. He didn’t want to leave becuase of the offense, that’s fabricated nonsense to based on the amount of targets and career year he had. It was always about the money.

2.Because you simply don’t field a quality team when one player is costing 35-38 million against your cap. Assuming that’s the range of the 2024 tag. Exclusive version costing closer to 43-45mil. In 2024 I’m guessing something like 39-41 and 49-52. That’s not sustainable. Atleast on a long term deal you can adjust those cap hits an move money around .The real issue is the Watson contract. I imagine that screwed everything up as the Ravens were likely offering something slightly better than the Josh Allen contract before that. Ravens are not in a position to match/ improve on the Watson offer. So again , if Lamar draws that line in the sand, I really wouldn’t be surprised he is gone after playing out his 5th year option and one tag. Not sure why anyone thinks a second tag is guaranteed either at that cost.
 
BoredMarine13 said:
1. It wasn’t the cost of the 5th year option, it was the cost of the follow on contract. Ravens FO was smart to deal him now while he had value and easily afffordable for another team under that option. Hollywood knew we weren’t paying, so he and DeCosta worked out a great trade for both sides. He didn’t want to leave becuase of the offense, that’s fabricated nonsense to based on the amount of targets and career year he had. It was always about the money.

2.Because you simply don’t field a quality team when one player is costing 35-38 million against your cap. Assuming that’s the range of the 2024 tag. Exclusive version costing closer to 43-45mil. In 2024 I’m guessing something like 39-41 and 49-52. That’s not sustainable. Atleast on a long term deal you can adjust those cap hits an move money around .The real issue is the Watson contract. I imagine that screwed everything up as the Ravens were likely offering something slightly better than the Josh Allen contract before that. Ravens are not in a position to match/ improve on the Watson offer. So again , if Lamar draws that line in the sand, I really wouldn’t be surprised he is gone after playing out his 5th year option and one tag. Not sure why anyone thinks a second tag is guaranteed either at that cost.
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1. Did he? Because by all accounts, it was he didn't want to be here because he didn't like the offense. I don't think its a smart assumption to presume the Ravens weren't going to pay him. Regardless, it seems you're assuming he's not here because both parties knew they weren't going to pay him. And I don't think that's rooted in anything factual.
I don't think they'd ever franchise tag him, and I think they'd let him test the market too. Could be a Mosley situation where they get outbid.
2. Again, a lot presumptuous. What's the salary cap in 2024 or 2025? If it's $240-250M, why is $40M a huge problem? Why is $50M a huge problem?
For those keeping track, the reigning SB champs spent $44.7M on one QB last year. That's because Stafford cost $20M and Goff, who wasn't on the roster, cost $24.7M. And that was on a salary cap of $182.5M.
I don't disagree on Watson. But the Watson deal isn't prohibitive because of AAV or even length. It's prohibitive because he blew the doors off guaranteed money AND got a fully guaranteed deal.
You can scroll through my messages on this before, but I clearly said if Lamar wants 5 years of guarantees at the Watson price, and he won't budge, I'd trade him today.
That's a secondary conversation from the franchise tags though. I don't think the Ravens will have any problem franchising him for two years. I think it will absolutely hamstring what they can do in FA, with potential FAs, etc., but I think they'll do it anyway, because nobody in either of those classes is as important to the success of the team as Lamar.
That doesn't mean blank check book. It just means they're realistic.
 
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