Lamar Jackson

[QtR Nevermore]

No doubt.

However, I heard it argued once that deep passing was more of a WR stat than a QB stat, and whoever was making the point gave lots of examples of QB's deep passing stats with and without their good receivers. It seemed like he had a point.

We're always working from small sample sizes with the Ravens passing game. Lamar has definitely missed a few deep balls but some of those near misses might have been completed with better receiving talent.

Whatever success Lamar's had going deep has come from Hollywood, one throw to DeSean Jackson and a little bit from Duvernay early this season (before he was frozen out of the offense for some reason.)

I can barely remember Bateman getting any deep targets. (Or targets at all really. We don't have much evidence on how good, or bad he is, yet.)

In short, Lamar needs to do better but it might not look so bad with better WRs.

 

[RavensMania]

No doubt.

However, I heard it argued once that deep passing was more of a WR stat than a QB stat, and whoever was making the point gave lots of examples of QB's deep passing stats with and without their good receivers. It seemed like he had a point.

We're always working from small sample sizes with the Ravens passing game. Lamar has definitely missed a few deep balls but some of those near misses might have been completed with better receiving talent.

Whatever success Lamar's had going deep has come from Hollywood, one throw to DeSean Jackson and a little bit from Duvernay early this season (before he was frozen out of the offense for some reason.)

I can barely remember Bateman getting any deep targets. (Or targets at all really. We don't have much evidence on how good, or bad he is, yet.)

In short, Lamar needs to do better but it might not look so bad with better WRs.

and Bateman -- 60 yard bomb vs the Jets in week 1



this one isn't a bomb, but is a 75 yard TD pass to Bateman



Bateman has #1 WR talent, we just need to figure out how to use him next year.

 

[QtR Nevermore]

I hope so. I used to think so, but his drops and injury prone-ness have got me a little worried about his potential.

 

[Tank]

Lamar can bomb the ball on a rope down the field with the best. Where he has had issues are the passes that require touch and arc.

 

[gtalk12]

and Bateman -- 60 yard bomb vs the Jets in week 1



this one isn't a bomb, but is a 75 yard TD pass to Bateman



Bateman has #1 WR talent, we just need to figure out how to use him next year.

the fact that we need to figure out how to get this guy the ball makes me sick

 

[Militant X 1]

Lamar can bomb the ball on a rope down the field with the best. Where he has had issues are the passes that require touch and arc.

I see the same thing. Lamar has a killer arm and strength. However, on those "finesse" passes is where he struggles. Perhaps, it is from his excitement from seeing the open receiver deep, or his nerves in not wanting to miss the receiver deep on the throw that he ends up; well, missing them deep on the throws.

 

[allblackraven]

Please don't be so quick to concede... with Bateman gone, Beckham would be an ideal addition. I want him for my child.

 

[29BmoreBird22]

However, I heard it argued once that deep passing was more of a WR stat than a QB stat, and whoever was making the point gave lots of examples of QB's deep passing stats with and without their good receivers. It seemed like he had a point.

Tua is the top deep ball passer this year in several metrics. I can believe this.

 

[Ellicottraven]

you already have a big famiily

Oh, no I am not up for new adoptions, my friend. I just want him as a playmate for my lonely, genius child...

 

[Ellicottraven]

@allblackraven, have you heard of the concept of a sinusoidal or sin wave? All you have displayed is one side of the down curve. Now, as a Raven, the wave begins trending up.

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[Ellicottraven]

Absolutely, but Lamar misses these deep throws basically every week, and he’s held to a higher standard than duvernay or Robinson, and he’s past the point of excusing himself for missing wide open TD passes as frequently as he has this year.

He wants fully guaranteed and 200m+ he’s gotta hit those more consistently

Wrong! Wrong! Fucking so bad on so many levels, it can't get wronger.

 

[allblackraven]

@allblackraven, have you heard of the concept of a sinusoidal or sin wave? All you have displayed is one side of the down curve. Now, as a Raven, the wave begins trending up.

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He is not the player for us.

Also, if somehow he becomes a Raven, his ACL will never heal. And I'm sure he's aware.

 

[Deebo813]

Man tua is bad.. idc what those stats sayp

 

[redrum52]

Can we talk about how confident Proche looked when he tossed that pass lol.

Shit look beautiful until you seen where it was going.

Man tua is bad.. idc what those stats sayp

Been said this and was laughed at. Funny what good weapons can do for a players numbers.

 

[purplepittabread88]

Disgusting

Anyone else think this might have a little something to do with lamars lack of touch or how it feels he’s always throwing behind wrs ??

 

[purplepittabread88]

@allblackraven, have you heard of the concept of a sinusoidal or sin wave? All you have displayed is one side of the down curve. Now, as a Raven, the wave begins trending up.

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I have no idea how you embedded this in the post but honestly impressive.

 

[RavensMania]

 

[UPennChem]

Anyone else think this might have a little something to do with lamars lack of touch or how it feels he’s always throwing behind wrs ??

Based on what I saw in the Jags game I wouldn't say so. There was nothing wrong with those passes.

 

[Militant X 1]

Sports Injury Central says that Lamar's injury is a PCL sprain. It doesn't need surgery. He may need a brace. His season isn't over!

It may keep him out for a few weeks or the entire month of December.

Dejavu from last season. Smh!

 

[Dom McRaven]

And Josh Oliver was the one trying to block one of their pass-rushers.

*sighs*