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Lamar Jackson

Being a Dodgers fan, this made me moist in my crevices

 
rmcjacket23 said:
At the moment, Lamar holds the bulk of the leverage. That exists as long as a) he maintains his health and doesn't suffer a long term injury and b) he continues to play at comparable levels to prior years.

The moment either of those things stops being true, the leverage situation changes.

IF it really is all about "winning" for Lamar, which I believe it partially is but obviously not entirely is, as long as he understands that every year he doesn't play on a long term deal, the chances of him winning significantly decrease, then I'm fine with any and all decisions he makes.
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Clearly what is obvious to you isn't obvious to me. Care to expound on your casual remark, if for nothing else, but, just for the sake of human posterity and progress?
 
6 years / $291 M

Makes it $48.5 M average, let's say $200 M in guarantees although I think whatever the deal is, Lamar will collect every single penny, so it's beside the point, really.

It would only be fair if the Ravens show how much they appreciate Lamar by offering something like this.

Certainly worth at least this much for a proven MVP (well on a way to another, with injury ravaged team) and a great leader, considering what serial sex deviant and an asshole who doesn't study the film are getting.
 
allblackraven said:
6 years / $291 M

Makes it $48.5 M average, let's say $200 M in guarantees although I think whatever the deal is, Lamar will collect every single penny, so it's beside the point, really.

It would only be fair if the Ravens show how much they appreciate Lamar by offering something like this.

Certainly worth at least this much for a proven MVP (well on a way to another, with injury ravaged team) and a great leader, considering what serial sex deviant and an asshole who doesn't study the film are getting.
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I hope he sign something like 5yr 250 or 245. he be 30 when deal over and if he progresses well, sign another crazy deal lol
 
Jeff Darlinghton on Sportcenter this morning reporting Ravens “made best and final offer to Lamar”….He doesn’t anticipate Lamar accepting it
 
Really not looking forward to a year of this shit. We may have control with the tag, but good look bringing in meaningful free agents if we can’t get cap relief on a long term deal.
 
RavensMania said:
not sure I believe this, considering how tight lipped we have been.
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Ravens getting frustrated? Perhaps leaking some info to show the fans “ we’re doing our part, it’s Lamar’s turn now”….. I think the organization, like fans, is getting frustrated. If we can get the deal done we free up cap room to add important depth pieces. With so many players coming back from serious injury I’m sure DeCosta is hell bent on making sure we don’t end up in the same situation as last year
 
Ellicottraven said:
Clearly what is obvious to you isn't obvious to me. Care to expound on your casual remark, if for nothing else, but, just for the sake of human posterity and progress?
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Well, if its all about "winning", why doesn't Lamar just sign a contract for like $20M a year? Or $15M? Or $10M? In aggregate, its close to generational wealth all the same. So why $40M? $45M? $50M?

Because its not all about winning. It's about both.
 
 
JAAM said:
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That seems like a reach to me when you add jacoby Jones , stallworth, and TJ hous your mama to the list of “ talent” we added for Joe. We also had Mason two years before drafting Flacco…… but i get the idea. Just remember this all stems from the dummies blowing Greg Roman , who’s offense undoubtedly scares away talented WR. People can’t admit that so they’ve convinced themselves we don’t need top talent at the position.
 
JAAM said:
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So I'm actually arguing with some of the guys on that very tweet. It's a very misleading and quite frankly stupid tweet. I'm not sure when people decided that the only place to get good players was FA, but when you use like 70% of your draft picks on day 1 and 2 over a four year period, and you draft four receivers and two TEs in the first three rounds, its probably not good roster management to spend money in FA on same.

Ignoring the fact that FA is generally a baron wasteland to find quality WRs.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
So I'm actually arguing with some of the guys on that very tweet. It's a very misleading and quite frankly stupid tweet. I'm not sure when people decided that the only place to get good players was FA, but when you use like 70% of your draft picks on day 1 and 2 over a four year period, and you draft four receivers and two TEs in the first three rounds, its probably not good roster management to spend money in FA on same.

Ignoring the fact that FA is generally a baron wasteland to find quality WRs.
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You, argue? Im calling straight up bullshit.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
So I'm actually arguing with some of the guys on that very tweet. It's a very misleading and quite frankly stupid tweet. I'm not sure when people decided that the only place to get good players was FA, but when you use like 70% of your draft picks on day 1 and 2 over a four year period, and you draft four receivers and two TEs in the first three rounds, its probably not good roster management to spend money in FA on same.

Ignoring the fact that FA is generally a baron wasteland to find quality WRs.
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He forgot the best one: Anquan Boldin
 
ravenslord said:
He forgot the best one: Anquan Boldin
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Yeah, but for me, that's not the point.
All of Flacco's tenure everybody (including me) bitched about how the FO would never use draft picks on WRs. How all we ever did was give Joe aging, cheap veterans in FA.
Then, we go and do the exact opposite with Lamar, and now everybody is, yet again, bitching. In a four year span, Lamar got four WRs drafted before the end of day 2, including two in the first round, and two pass catching TE's, one of which is among the league's best.
And now the argument is "well why didn't we give him the stud FA"?

Ignoring the fact that, as I've argued, there are no stud FA WRs, it seems like really poor management to expect that every dollar and every acquisition needs to be spent to make Lamar happy. And that's before we discuss the investments in the Oline from this past season.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
Yeah, but for me, that's not the point.
All of Flacco's tenure everybody (including me) bitched about how the FO would never use draft picks on WRs. How all we ever did was give Joe aging, cheap veterans in FA.
Then, we go and do the exact opposite with Lamar, and now everybody is, yet again, bitching. In a four year span, Lamar got four WRs drafted before the end of day 2, including two in the first round, and two pass catching TE's, one of which is among the league's best.
And now the argument is "well why didn't we give him the stud FA"?

Ignoring the fact that, as I've argued, there are no stud FA WRs, it seems like really poor management to expect that every dollar and every acquisition needs to be spent to make Lamar happy. And that's before we discuss the investments in the Oline from this past season.
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ravenslord said:
He forgot the best one: Anquan Boldin
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But honestly, that's not the guy I'm arguing with. I'm arguing with other clowns who think all the Ravens do is invest in defense. Which I pointed out the fact that from 2018-2021 the Ravens made 16 draft picks on day 1 and 2, and 11 of them were on offensive players. And I pointed out the fact that, in this coming season, the Ravens are spending 57% of their salary cap space on offensive players, and in terms of total cap $, are top 5 in the league in total offensive spending.

But apparently WR is the only position anybody cares about for some odd reason.
 
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