Lamar Jackson

[rossihunter2]

Much appreciated.

I have a friend who watches college ball who I'll listen to and @rossihunter2 . I don't start watching film study until he releases his boards and will check who my friend mentions. Makes the process easy for someone who only watches NFL.

omg you guys are really gassing me up lol

i appreciate it

 

[JoeyFlex5]

I agree with you half sure, but the organization always committed there blueprint to him. We build the 1st and 4th best rushing offense ever, asked him what wr he wanted and got him (hollywood), spent another first on Bateman, attempted to trade for Hopkins, poured assets into wr and online, signed a multi million fullback, extended his best option Andrews and so so much more.

I hate the narrative we failed Lamar. were we perfect? No. Is it fair for fans to be upset that we have no idea what is going on - wether he really doesn't heal well from injuries, or is upset about the contract? I think yes.

To me, this injury feels like a lose lose. Either he is abnormally slow at recovering from injuries, or he is better and doesn't want to play. neither of that news can be good.

All this because we wouldn’t up the ante on Hopkins. That’s what it boils down to. It would’ve been Hopkins or maybe Queen and Bateman and Calais. Looking at it now I would’ve preferred hop to all of them no question. And if you asked me back then I’d have said the same.

If we had pulled the trigger on hop then literally nobody is saying we failed him, because we don’t give a shit about what we ultimately got by not trading for him, and we’re right for it. We’d have been a better team with Hopkins vs WHOEVER we got as a result of not trading.

 

[Thezone27]

Yea I can't believe how much blame falls on us. they act like we didn't try to pay him? Hasn't Lamar been clear he is in the bet on himself camp?? ive never gotten this bullshit situation. its so incredibly stupid

Or it's just a freak coincidence and will never happen again.

 

[All_black_everything]

All this because we wouldn’t up the ante on Hopkins. That’s what it boils down to. It would’ve been Hopkins or maybe Queen and Bateman and Calais. Looking at it now I would’ve preferred hop to all of them no question. And if you asked me back then I’d have said the same.

If we had pulled the trigger on hop then literally nobody is saying we failed him, because we don’t give a shit about what we ultimately got by not trading for him, and we’re right for it. We’d have been a better team with Hopkins vs WHOEVER we got as a result of not trading.

I thought it came out that Bill O’Brian didn’t want to trade him within the conference?

 

[Ellicottraven]

thanks man - i love the discussion in the draft thread

and draft weekend is like my christmas lol

must say the WR group is not looking amazing so far

I've decided to make myself knowledgeable about the draft this year. So, I'll follow you diligently and piss people off with my fabulously dumb questions.

 

[Ellicottraven]

if he waits until the start of training camp it hurts us in 2023
if we want this team to be competing for a super bowl in 2023 then we need to get him signed in the next couple of months

it's in his interest to wait for another couple of deals
it's in the ravens best interest to get it done before free agency

ravens would have to be super confident that lamar would sign a long-term deal before July when the negotiating window ends and he's on the tag - not sure the ravens can risk that so it'll have to be a supremely quiet free agency period just in case

The likelihood is he signs in the offseason. My instincts tell me he wants to get it done so he can chill and focus on football. I'm sure he is unhappy about how the season ended this year. He won't let it happen again.

 

[rossihunter2]

I've decided to make myself knowledgeable about the draft this year. So, I'll follow you diligently and piss people off with my fabulously dumb questions.

the more the merrier

 

[Simba]

 

[RavensMania]

Didnt perriman have a pcl injury and miss the whole season with us?

yes he had a grade 2 pcl sprain

now that we know it's a grade 2 pcl sprain no on the border of a grade 3. No way he could make it back this season. If he were to make it back this season he would be a very quick healer.

I believe we were originally told it was a grade 1 pcl sprain

 

[rossihunter2]

well fuck
even if we win he's not coming back this year

 

[RavensMania]

I think they are very close and he'll sign the deal before the start of training camp. Or do you think he decides to wait for what Burrow and the Bungles do?

If he waited til Burrow signed and if it's this season, not only would it hurt us in free agency, but it wouldn't help him. It's not like Mike Brown is going to be dishing out a fully guaranteed contract.

 

[Dom McRaven]

omg you guys are really gassing me up lol

i appreciate it

For sure! How else are @JAAM and I gonna come up with our #SIIE lists? LOL

 

[rossihunter2]

For sure! How else are @JAAM and I gonna come up with our #SIIE lists? LOL

well bad news so far
ive not fallen in love with any prospects yet

 

[RavensMania]

well bad news so far
ive not fallen in love with any prospects yet

good news. There is plenty of time left .....

 

[purplepittabread88]

good news. There is plenty of time left .....

yea what pick we get when we lose this weekend.. as high as 20 realistically?

 

[Dom McRaven]

This confirmed what I always suspected. I never bought into the "Lamar is quiet quitting" or whatever narrative. I just thought this injury was worse than what was told and even Harbs couldn't definitively said.

 

[RavensMania]

This confirmed what I always suspected. I never bought into the "Lamar is quiet quitting" or whatever narrative. I just thought this injury was worse than what was told and even Harbs couldn't definitively said.

it would have been best if Lamar said something earlier or Harbs. He should have been put on IR knowing this information.

 

[redrum52]

This confirmed what I always suspected. I never bought into the "Lamar is quiet quitting" or whatever narrative. I just thought this injury was worse than what was told and even Harbs couldn't definitively said.

I thought I was reading into it, but if you watch that clip of Harbaugh telling him to hug Huntley after the game, it looked like he was still limping around. I think it was the Falcons game.

 

[redrum52]

it would have been best if Lamar said something earlier or Harbs. He should have been put on IR knowing this information.

The doctors know, but are probably hopeful.

 

[BoredMarine13]

thanks man - i love the discussion in the draft thread

and draft weekend is like my christmas lol

must say the WR group is not looking amazing so far

Another TE it is