Lamar Jackson

[UPennChem]

It's funny everyone is fixated on different aspects of all of this. I'll throw my idea out.

I firstly have no ill will towards Lamar. I think he's always been very hurt and always tried his best to get back.

I think thr Ravens PR on this was an absolute joke. Absolutely no reason for it and made Lamar catch a ton of unnecessary flack.

My biggest gripe, and I've been saying this from the beginning, Lamar's injury was WAAAAY worse than they reported. You can check, I said that we'd be lucky if he was back for Cincy which would have out him at 6 weeks. Turns out that wasn't even close and he probably wouldn't play if we were in the SB.

All that being said wtf were we doing not putting Lamar on IR and getting a real QB in here? This is on top of knowing Snoop is bad and has had tendinitis issues the whole year.

That's absolutely garbage GM-ing and HC-ing.

BIG fat F for EDC, Harbs, and the Ravens PR team

 

[Darklight1216]

I'm not going to add to injury talk but I do agree we should trade Lamar. This is the second year in a row he misses the second half of the season (I know it's not his fault he gets injured) and these injuries are taking a toll on his biggest asset which is his legs.

He is a great athlete, excellent runner, but he is slowing down which is expected. He has not taken the next step as a passer therfore in my opinion he doesn't deserve the contract that is rumored he wants. The FO has failed in giving him WRs but we also can't deny that this team set up this offense to fit Lamar and his strengths. I'll be happy of he's stays but I will understand if the team decides to trade him.

The greatest ability is availability.
I initially thought along these lines, but the NFL is clearly divided between haves and habe bits. The "haves" have a qb. The Ravens dont even have a competent backup qb. And this draft class isn't known for its passers.
They need to keep Lamar and find a better backup.
Besides, isn't he at the end of rookie contract? I don't know if guys like that can be traded. I suppose they might tag and trade?

 

[ndub]

I was wrong... you're zones burner account.

You ain’t gonna get me riled up and in trouble again sir

 

[Thezone27]

Also as good as Lamar is why would some team trade the farm for Lamar when he is hurt and had a season ending injury? That’s the kind of dumb move a franchise does. The only way a team does it is if the Ravens sell very low. I’m not sure why I would do that if I am the Ravens.

Only way Lamar leaves is if he wants it and I’m not convinced of that.

Cleveland?

 

[Thezone27]

just like stanley

and look 2 years later who should have been a pro bowler?

 

[ravenslord]

I have to say I am extremely disappointed in the way the Ravens front office has handled the Lamar injury .

He deserved better. He should not have had to Twitter post his injury status. He must have felt it was necessary

because of the complete lack of transparency coming from the front office.

SAD!!!!! I do believe his Twitter post could signal the end of his tenure in Baltimore. I can't believe management is happy with his post
and it indicates Lamar must not be happy with the information presented by the Ravens.

 

[Thezone27]

I have to say I am extremely disappointed in the way the Ravens front office has handled the Lamar injury .

He deserved better. He should not have had to Twitter post his injury status. He must have felt it was necessary

because of the complete lack of transparency coming from the front office.

SAD!!!!! I do believe his Twitter post could signal the end of his tenure in Baltimore. I can't believe management is happy with his post
and it indicates Lamar must not be happy with the information presented by the Ravens.

The message didn't seem like him. I don't think he wrote it maybe his mom?

 

[Deebo813]

The message didn't seem like him. I don't think he wrote it maybe his mom?

What do you mean it doesnt seem like him?

 

[Thezone27]

What do you mean it doesnt seem like him?

He just doesn't post in that way, that kind of stuff.

 

[Tank]

What do you mean it doesnt seem like him?

He didn't write that post. Like @Sizzle said it was his mom, or someone else that's helping with his contract.

 

[ndub]

He didn't write that post. Like @Sizzle said it was his mom, or someone else that's helping with his contract.

Thanks for the mention, but I won’t take credit where it isn’t due. I believe that was @Ellicottraven

 

[Thezone27]

Thanks for the mention, but I won’t take credit where it isn’t due. I believe that was @Ellicottraven

Excuse me? Oh yeah, I forgot I'm just his burner

 

[Tank]

He didn't write that post. Like @Sizzle said it was his mom, or someone else that's helping with his contract.

My bad, @Thezone27. lol

 

[allblackraven]

 

[gtalk12]

Don’t show this to @ravenslord

 

[RavensMania]

all with Greg Roman. He's got two hands tied behind his back

 

[Michael M.]

How does QB show his passing ability if there's no one to throw to?

I think Lamar will come back next season with a signed contract, Roman exits, a more pass friendly OC is hired and 1-2 WR'S are drafted, one early. I also think they"ll sign a legit veteran WR, not a Sammy Watkins caliber but someone with some game left in him.

 

[drjohnnyfever]

Look at Sizzle being the voice of reason. Maybe you really are a changed man.

But yeah the reality is probably somewhere in the middle. I have my doubts that the Ravens and Lamar's team are totally in sync, but I also don't see how reaching to the extremes is considered plausible by some.

This is where I am. I think its both sides. Maybe not Lamar that much until yesterday. But as the original poster of that initial Mercy Medical page that has now become infamous, lol. There were many that were blindly accepting the 3-4 weeks narrative because that's what the FO was projecting. Turns out, the page is correct on the timeline for a "complication". The complication is that its almost a full tear. Lol But even as a significant Grade 2 it was probably outside of the 3-4 week range and closer to a potential 8 weeks as the article said.

That said, there is NO WAY the club didnt know the severity from the beginning. So clearly there was -maybe not deception or deceit- but some gamesmanship. Other teams having to spend time preparing for Lamar is different than preparing for a 2nd or 3rd stringer.

The real question is Preston's source because that's what started all this nonsense. Yet its fair also to point out that the Ravens handling of injury reports is historically poor.

 

[Militant X 1]

The message didn't seem like him. I don't think he wrote it maybe his mom?

Whether Lamar actually wrote it or not is a moot point to me. Surely, if not Lamar, someone else in his inner circle was able to share that information and no doubt Lamar was ok with it or he would have taken it down by now.

 

[SaltyDog]

This is where I am. I think its both sides. Maybe not Lamar that much until yesterday. But as the original poster of that initial Mercy Medical page that has now become infamous, lol. There were many that were blindly accepting the 3-4 weeks narrative because that's what the FO was projecting. Turns out, the page is correct on the timeline for a "complication". The complication is that its almost a full tear. Lol But even as a significant Grade 2 it was probably outside of the 3-4 week range and closer to a potential 8 weeks as the article said.

That said, there is NO WAY the club didnt know the severity from the beginning. So clearly there was -maybe not deception or deceit- but some gamesmanship. Other teams having to spend time preparing for Lamar is different than preparing for a 2nd or 3rd stringer.

The real question is Preston's source because that's what started all this nonsense. Yet its fair also to point out that the Ravens handling of injury reports is historically poor.

I agree with everything you say here but I have 2 things to add:

1. People need to stop paying attention to Preston. I did years ago. He’s an opinionated beat writer, and a shit starter.

2. You’re suggesting that the Ravens knew from the beginning the severity of LJ injury (Potentially 8 week recovery). Would it have just been better for the team to shut him down then (IR), especially given the contract situation, and considering the possibility of further damage to the knee? Much of his value is in his running game. He needs two healthy knees to be great IMO. I mean Lamar is risking generational wealth here if he rushes back and re-injures, or further damages the knee. I really wouldn’t blame him if he has made that decision. On the other hand he holds some responsibility for this situation. He was offered a fair contract IMO, and chose to gamble on himself. So this is where he is.