Tank
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Not sure I have a strong opinion either way, but will say there’s always some doubt when a guy is at the end of a contract and in contentious negotiations for an extension. “Business decisions” if you will.
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Lamar Jackson
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gtalk12
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I mean it makes sense but he already played 12 games into the season. It just doesn't sound like something he would do based on his prior actions. He does not strike me as the type of guy who will sit like a Watson for example.
Things change of course.
gtalk12
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It would have to be 6 in order for the Ravens to give it some serious thought.
If you are Lamar, are you even interested in 6-7 year contracts?
rmcjacket23
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Who knows. I guess if gets the guaranteed $ he wants, maybe.
I would think 6 is the max. If he's looking at 5 years and wants 235 guaranteed, he won't get it from anybody.
I'm not personally buying that its his only demand though. I think its one or the other.
I think its one of two things. He either wants $235M fully gtd on a 5 or 6 year deal, OR, he wants a 3 or probably a 4 year deal, fully gtd.
I'd love to see how he responds if somebody offers him 3/150, fully gtd.
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allblackraven
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Did someone track how many different takes Fowler had on Lamar situation? Sounds like he's 'hearing' all this from the same sources ravenslord is using.
gtalk12
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Would the Ravens do a 3 year 150? It doesn't sound that bad to me.
ravenslord
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With his injury history,not a chance.
OURavensFan
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Fuck, I’m so sick of this shit lol
rmcjacket23
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I don't know. I can't imagine we're opposed to a 3 year deal, given that EDC I believe publicly said they've tried "multiple types" of deals, which I assume means a shorter term one also. I'm sort of anti anything under 4 years, because it really limits cap flexibility. But I wouldn't be completely opposed to it.
When Lamar said he was offered 3/133, many presumed that was literal, i.e. we offered 3 years, $133M, fully gtd. If we did that, I'd actually be pretty surprised if we weren't willing to go to at least $140-145M, and realistically up to $150M. So my "presumption" is that Lamar wouldn't take that deal, but I don't know for sure.
Ive been working under the premise that the 3/133 Lamar is referencing is just part of the same offer that Schefter and others reported, which was 5/250 with 133 gtd at signing.
rmcjacket23
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Escrow isn't really a problem. I'm not sure when fans got into their heads that teams aren't able to do this. They finance stadium renovations, stadium purchases, etc. NFL teams have a lot of cash but they're not these super liquid entities either.
If they didn't have $236M for escrow, they'll borrow from one of the 200 banks that would gladly lend them $, and its just escrow, so its super low risk to begin with.
Hell the naming rights to the stadium are literally from a Bank.
rmcjacket23
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# of years doesn't matter. If it's a 6 year offer, but only had 3-4 years of gtd $ on it, then its not a 6 year deal unless the Ravens want it to be.
I think they'd sign him to a 10 year contract if they could get him to agree to it. Provides mountains of salary cap flexibility and roster maneuverability
I never got this line of thinking either. It might be a problem for cash poor teams (aka the Raiders right after moving to Vegas and financing that stadium) but pretty much every owner out there can get that type of liquidity in an instant if they needed it.
rmcjacket23
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I'm not even certain whether its guaranteed at signing $ vs total guaranteed $.
But for context, we signed Marlon and Stanley both in like a 30 day period.
Just for those two deals alone, the guaranteed at signing portion was ~$105M, which is what we would have had to put up in escrow. And that's in addition to any other signings we made that year.
And while I get $230M is a lot more than that, teams haven't had a problem putting up at least $100-150M in guaranteed $ into escrow in the last few years. That's pretty clear.
AND, for reference, that was October 2020, which means we were in like the tail-end of the pandemic, and revenue was down league-wide due to lack of fans in the stands in prior years.
gtalk12
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What a game that was lmao
SaltyDog
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The question I have about this is: had he not been in negotiations for a new contract would he have played the Cincy games? I always give players the benefit of the doubt when it comes to injuries but in this case I have doubts. Given no contract negotiations, and Knowing Lama,r I don’t think they would have been able to keep him off the field for those games if there was any chance he could play. Just sayin’.
ravenslord
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Bad nutritional habits? Maybe that shrimp alfredo he eats before each game is not a good idea!
He not exactly following Brady's nutritional regimen
ravenslord
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This is the QB i want : Report: Tampa Bay Buccaneers QB Tom Brady played entire season with torn MCL. Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarterback Tom Brady played the entirety of last season with a torn medial collateral ligament in his left knee, according to a report in the Tampa Bay Times.Jul 16, 2021
SaltyDog
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Flacco played a series with a torn ACL and MCL. moved the O in position for game winning FG against the Rams in 2015. Mahomes played with a high ankle sprain in the playoffs this past season. Brock Purdue played with a torn UCL against the Eagles. I mean people handle injuries differently. I guess our boy ain’t all that tough. Lol
ravenslord
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Yep. I suspect thats why teams are wary of him