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The Awful, The Run Defence and The Offence

rossihunter2 said:
just to be clear, it's not ridiculous to consider lateral moves - yes teams can block them, but if it's something that coach wants to do, then in at least some cases teams would give permission

they can block it if they want but not necessarily a given in all scenarios
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yes it happens, but not that often
 
Can anyone remember what packages we were playing on defense this game? Did we even try to take the run away with in game adjustments or were we so scared of getting passed on we played a more vanilla standard defense?
 
UPennChem said:
Can anyone remember what packages we were playing on defense this game? Did we even try to take the run away with in game adjustments or were we so scared of getting passed on we played a more vanilla standard defense?
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I don't have this. Ken McKusick over at Film Study usually does weekly breakdown of defensive personnel grouping. He's having some personal health issues it seems so he's writing more summarized versions and did not include personnel groupings.


However, based on snap count distributions, it doesn't look like a particularly "pass heavy" approach on defense. Looks to be plenty of Nickel Packages. Washington, Madubuike, Bowser, JPP played a lot, and there was a pretty good rotation at OLB. Not seeing much playing time from a 6th DB.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
I don't have this. Ken McKusick over at Film Study usually does weekly breakdown of defensive personnel grouping. He's having some personal health issues it seems so he's writing more summarized versions and did not include personnel groupings.


However, based on snap count distributions, it doesn't look like a particularly "pass heavy" approach on defense. Looks to be plenty of Nickel Packages. Washington, Madubuike, Bowser, JPP played a lot, and there was a pretty good rotation at OLB. Not seeing much playing time from a 6th DB.
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Thank you!
 
Saw the Pickett TD again, I’m not so sure he was even throwing to the RB; there was another guy in the same spot waiting for that ball, the Greg Roman special but it worked on our clutch defense lmao. We are such a joke
 
OURavensFan said:
Saw the Pickett TD again, I’m not so sure he was even throwing to the RB; there was another guy in the same spot waiting for that ball, the Greg Roman special but it worked on our clutch defense lmao. We are such a joke
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Was disappointed in Roquan on this one. His initial dropback into coverage on the RB is pretty perfect. He just takes a few steps towards Pickett when he scrambles and then isn't able to recover. Didn't think he needed to come up to make a play on Pickett's scramble, since Queen had already released and was in pursuit.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
Was disappointed in Roquan on this one. His initial dropback into coverage on the RB is pretty perfect. He just takes a few steps towards Pickett when he scrambles and then isn't able to recover. Didn't think he needed to come up to make a play on Pickett's scramble, since Queen had already released and was in pursuit.
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Yea it’s too bad, it was a little bit like Huntley’s play against Denver, we just got beat on it this time
 
rmcjacket23 said:
Was disappointed in Roquan on this one. His initial dropback into coverage on the RB is pretty perfect. He just takes a few steps towards Pickett when he scrambles and then isn't able to recover. Didn't think he needed to come up to make a play on Pickett's scramble, since Queen had already released and was in pursuit.
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yeah he was off in a couple coverages this game. Have to say that Hamilton's coverage on Freiermuth on the long pass (believe it was to him) was spot on. He basically couldn't have covered him any better, it was just a perfect throw.
 
The thing that I don't think people are talking about enough is the redzone offense. GRo is totally deer in headlights when we get there.

Lamar was struggling to score in the RZ. Huntley has been basically inept in the RZ. Even if Lamar comes back, we're still gonna struggle to score in the RZ. Because what's changed since last time Lamar was playing? We swapped Duvernay for Watkins. That's it.

JK is obviously back but there's no functional difference between Lamar and Huntley with respect to JKs ability to score in the RZ rushing. Or if there is, it's small.

I dont see this offense putting it together in the RZ this year, with this OC, and with this roster.
 
Sidenote:

watching the all-22...

Tyus Bowser is still insane in coverage - this dude is man covering TEs that safeties and CBs sometimes struggle with and erasing them from the play
 
rossihunter2 said:
Sidenote:

watching the all-22...

Tyus Bowser is still insane in coverage - this dude is man covering TEs that safeties and CBs sometimes struggle with and erasing them from the play
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he's a beast. To think many of us wanted JuJu over him is ridiculous. I give credit to @Simba as he was always a big fan of Bowser.
 
rossihunter2 said:
i mean i liked juju a lot and still do lol
both good players - and must be said that Juju became an impact player a lot sooner than Bowser did
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he did, but Bowser has been good for 4 seasons now and JuJu hasn't really done much since the 2018 season. He's been ok this season and could have a 1000 yard season if he goes off this weekend.

I believe Bowser has been the more impactful player.
 
RavensMania said:
he's a beast. To think many of us wanted JuJu over him is ridiculous. I give credit to @Simba as he was always a big fan of Bowser.
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Still think they spent too much time trying to develop every little thing in his game instead of letting him do what he does best and build on the rest over time. Glad he ended up being a hit, even if not a superstar.
 
Simba said:
Still think they spent too much time trying to develop every little thing in his game instead of letting him do what he does best and build on the rest over time. Glad he ended up being a hit, even if not a superstar.
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I totally agree with that and they did that with Judon also.
 
RavensMania said:
it's not going to be a lateral move, because any team would be able to block a coordinator under contract.

That being said, I seriously doubt they would have any issues moving laterally to us with Lamar Jackson as the QB, if they could. They can't so it's useless even discussing it.

I like Frank Reich as a coordinator and feel he would be the perfect for Lamar. It wasn't that long ago he brought Carson Wentz and Nick Foles to the Super Bowl and won the game. He was the coordinator with the team.
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I agree with everything you've said about an OC. Problem is, and everyone needs to realize, there is no change coming THIS season. They will ride it out continuing to suck and losing with Lamar instead of Huntley. is there anything they can do to improve? They have everyone except Bateman and they still can't get a first down when needed. The die is cast for a change from Roman, but it won't happen this year... I agree.
UPennChem said:
Everyone saw the offensive performance coming a mile away. No one thought we'd be run on like that.
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...and yet the DEF still allowed only 16 points. A TD mixed in with any one of our RZ appearances wins the game. It's an appalling display.
 
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