I’ve got a 2 on metcalf at the moment
Got marquise brown and deebo samuel 1 and 2 both with 1 grades at the moment
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2019 WR Thread
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I’ve got a 2 on metcalf at the moment
Got marquise brown and deebo samuel 1 and 2 both with 1 grades at the moment
I really agree - browns a guy who I feel fine about in lots of different areas but nothing stands out that makes me think he’ll be anything other than a competent safe volume guy
Anybody else worried about Harmon’s ability to separate in the pros?
I don't think he will have any issues separating in the pros. He's a pretty good route runner and will most likely get better with work. He's also had no issues creating separation at the college level.
I see a lot of tight window throws - I think he does some subtle route running things that help him and set him up to potentially be successful but I worry that those tight windows are gonna get tighter in the nfl
There are also some reps where I’m really impressed too but it’s something I’m concerned about
Edgar
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I do a little. I have watched only two games (UNC and UVA) so perhaps take that as a caveat.
I don't get it. No way based on those games do I take him at 22. I do not see a guy that will give a defense pause in game planning. Or having to help someone in man. He is an absolute body catcher on film. I see him as a sort of fit in our offense but no way is he a #1. I'm not taking a WR in the first round unless he is.
I see him matched up too many times one on one and not winning. I'm not crazy about him. Is there a game that might show what I am missing?
JoeyFlex5
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I was at first until i began noticing his creativity. He separates in his own way, he isn’t sharp or explosive in his cuts but he’s crafty and clearly high iq in his routes, and he knows what kind of separation he needs, he doesn’t have to cut and explode 5 yards away from the defender, all he needs is an angle and positioning, and he does it well.
i see a little bit of nuance in the way he runs his routes but not much tbh
just moving on to nkeal harry - first impression is not good so far
really like Arcega-Whiteside - so far - strong hands, redzone weapon, effectively gets off press-man and really nice route runner for his size - really nice at stacking the corner - will be interested to see how he tests too - he's got the most refined body-control of any of the bigger receivers ive watched so far - as a bonus he's willing to get stuck in and find people to block too
kinda surprisingly quick feet - he's got some consistency problems with his route running but has shown some high-end reps and demonstrates an understanding of how to set up corners over multiple reps too
i think he's someone who's going to improve with some pro coaching too - high ceiling type player methinks
kinda surprisingly quick feet - he's got some consistency problems with his route running but has shown some high-end reps and demonstrates an understanding of how to set up corners over multiple reps too
i think he's someone who's going to improve with some pro coaching too - high ceiling type player methinks
by the way - riley ridley is clearly the best route runner of any of the receivers ive watched so far
JoeyFlex5
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I’m with you on this guy, I think he’s really slept on, he reminds me quite a bit of alshon Jeffrey, him and harmon both
JoeyFlex5
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Better than Deebo? Deebo is a really quality route runner but the thing that sets his game apart for me is his zone awareness, he’s by far the best zone beater in the class for me, and he pairs his route running really well by timing his steps to maximize YAC potential
I like Arcega-Whiteside as well and agree with all of your points. Some people feel he would be better as a TE, but I don't feel that way at all.
JoeyFlex5
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I don’t think he’s big enough for that and I don’t see that interior/slot style with him. He looks like a guy you just want on the boundary beating the corner for the ball.
I totally agree. I wish I remembered where I heard that or read that.
i love deebo and i think deebo's the better prospect but Ridley is so good through his routes - its not a knock on deebo - more just high praise on riley - a good combine (especially 40 time) for riley ridley and i think you see him fly up some draft boards because he's so smooth
looks very much like a wr to me
what i really like about him is that he plays like a big wr but he's still really sudden especially at the LoS he's got quickness and violence that beats press really quickly
nice vid @Edgar on emanuel hall - i think he's incredibly limited in terms of what he's been asked to do and his route running is kind of raw at times but he's so twitchy that he can beat a guy so fast with one half-decent fake or one strong jab step
that instant acceleration is really impressive and could be a major weapon to help him develop beyond just a pure deep ball receiver - he looks to me like someone who can develop into a good route runner because of what he does already with that ability to change direction and accelerate so fast
that instant acceleration is really impressive and could be a major weapon to help him develop beyond just a pure deep ball receiver - he looks to me like someone who can develop into a good route runner because of what he does already with that ability to change direction and accelerate so fast
I don't know how much of this is scheme but really enjoying the Parris Campbell film - reminds me of Percy Harvin a lot
he's dangerous at all 3 levels, incredibly fast and smooth with quick feet - has decent savvy at exploiting defenders trying to matchup against him
ive seen some nice routes from him but also a lot of rawness - i think he's so fast that he's never had to craft his routes especially with the great route combinations they run in that offence - its so easy to scheme guys open i dot think he's had to hone those routes like id want
that being said he's a playmaker with the ball in his hands and has good vision
he's dangerous at all 3 levels, incredibly fast and smooth with quick feet - has decent savvy at exploiting defenders trying to matchup against him
ive seen some nice routes from him but also a lot of rawness - i think he's so fast that he's never had to craft his routes especially with the great route combinations they run in that offence - its so easy to scheme guys open i dot think he's had to hone those routes like id want
that being said he's a playmaker with the ball in his hands and has good vision