The Well-Mannered Politics Thread

[Sami84]

im not upset at all lol. Im just trying to get you to see why black people are so “ superior” in the first place.. you know the answer but just dont wanna admit it.

I missed this one.

''SO'' was an overstatement but generally superior is more apt.
Yes, the answer is due to behaviorism's, environments and diet. ( repeating over thousands of generations).

and? So what? I've already told you that traits change over time based on ALL of the above.
So i'm saying being emotionaly attached to race and skin color is actually flawed

on a conceptual level ,If you put an entire black lineage of people in north alaska for 100,000 years and they never left, you'd probably find that after 100,000 years of super cold weather and little sunlight, they would look a LOT different to when they started even though they never reproduced outside their race.

race isnt forever.

 

[RavensMania]

I'm rarely around to moderate this thread and without going through the thread and pointing a finger at anyone, I'm just going to give a warning to going to EVERYONE. If we can't all be "well mannered" and follow the board rules then this forum will have to be shut down.

Just remember the reason we have this forum is to discuss a particular topic. Whether it be football related or politics we all have to be well mannered and respect everyones opinion. However when people get nasty towards one another for having differences of opinion then it is no longer worth keeping the forum open.

This is a warning to "ALL Participants"

 

[Ellicottraven]

Meanwhile, where is the respect for the flag and thousands of servicemen who are providing freedom for America overseas? Ah, no - police are just taking the country over

I saw this shit too. It is fucking blasphemous and hypocritical. Where did respect for the flag go suddenly? Or do we just chalk it up to Bengals fans being miserable and angry at their team's prospect?

 

[Ellicottraven]

WTF? What happened to the 4th Estate that was untouchable?

 

[rossihunter2]

WTF? What happened to the 4th Estate that was untouchable?

it's been legally challenged instantly - we'll see the outcome

 

[Tank]

I'm rarely around to moderate this thread and without going through the thread and pointing a finger at anyone, I'm just going to give a warning to going to EVERYONE. If we can't all be "well mannered" and follow the board rules then this forum will have to be shut down.

Just remember the reason we have this forum is to discuss a particular topic. Whether it be football related or politics we all have to be well mannered and respect everyones opinion. However when people get nasty towards one another for having differences of opinion then it is no longer worth keeping the forum open.

This is a warning to "ALL Participants"

This thread was never a good idea. Politics and religion are generally deeply seated beliefs and people tend to be very passionate and defensive of their own. While interesting and thought provoking at times there’s good reason not to allow discussion of them in a public forum like this.

 

[JoeyFlex5]

of course it does - it just means that i think women should be treated equally and fairly on a fundamental level

it makes all the sense in the world

Feminist actually implies that you believe in special treatment for women rather than equal rights.

 

[JO_75]

This thread was never a good idea. Politics and religion are generally deeply seated beliefs and people tend to be very passionate and defensive of their own. While interesting and thought provoking at times there’s good reason not to allow discussion of them in a public forum like this.

Actually, this thread nearing 300 pages shows it was working much better than people thought it would. I didn't think it would last long either, but I think the current situation has just escalated things a bit more than usual for this thread.

 

[JO_75]

I'll play along with some of the crazy conspiracy people on Twitter.

- The arresting officer has a IMDB(International Movie Database)
- People claim that the mugshot of the arresting officer is a different person from who we see murder George Floyd.
- Pictures of George Floyd doing "acting"(I'll leave it at that to keep it PG)

The IMDB page is true, I saw the page myself but that just tells me he was a low level actor who just became a police officer when he wasn't getting anymore acting gigs. Same with Floyd, actors have to turn to real jobs when acting dries up for them. The mugshot though, it looks like two different people for sure but that's all I'll give the conspiracy nuts.

I really hope these protests end soon, but with police wanting to turn peaceful protests violent, I don't think it will end as quickly as I would hope it would.

 

[rossihunter2]

Feminist actually implies that you believe in special treatment for women rather than equal rights.

it actually does not
it is entirely about advocacy for women's rights on the basis of equality of all genders

 

[JoeyFlex5]

I just want to say that I think burning down the Minneapolis police station and the Target who had involvement to the police was a GREAT way to protest, attack the problem, send a message, Boston tea party style, the taxes were a problem then so they attacked the item they taxed, the police were the problem here so you attack the department. I for one thought that was the ultimate act of patriotism, this is clearly a racially charged thing, but there is a bigger picture of constitutional violations. To get the ignorant ass “jUsT cOmPlY” crowds to shut their stupid ass mouths, I’ve been painting this in a different light, the police have not only been abusing and killing black people for far too long, but they’ve also been violating the constitution by doing so, the protests are fighting back against tyranny, in the most literal form of the word. The police are government employees, paid by our taxes, and they hold authority over us and have been extorting us by gunpoint, fighting back against that is as American as it gets. The problem is, too many people still have no problem with black people getting killed by police, it’s fucking despicable.

this protest started out great, where it spiraled into fuckery is when antifa got involved, and when protestors started attacking homes and small businesses, burn all the targets and Walmart’s to the ground, fuck em, but you’re killing your communities ability to prosper when you burn down small local owned business, that’s where this protest turns into a counter productive riot, that’s where your message begins to fall on deaf ears. That’s where these jackasses with no education and no understanding of independent sustainability become a problem. These people think they’re helping because they have no idea what it means to have small local owned businesses prosper.

FUCKING EDUCATE PEOPLE

 

[Tank]

Just going to say this. The killing of George Floyd was a heinous crime in every sense of the word, but I can pretty much guarantee this was not some random act of racist police violence/murder. There’s a back story here and I’m willing to bet these guys knew each other and there was bad blood between them well before this incident.

 

[Sami84]

it actually does not
it is entirely about advocacy for women's rights on the basis of equality of all genders

Then why do you need feminism? The last part supersedes any need for a sub-group that takes one demographic and places a philosophy that is based on ALL on one?

These groups have another agenda and it's unbeknownst to most of them because they already have a perverted ideology of what freedom entails. The whole world still to this point doesn't know they're all slaves for the most part.

All these riots are just a waste of time and childish. There is a lack of consciousness in this world.
I'm utterly uninterested in this because I see it for what it really is
a spiral of habitual programming that follows the same routine time and time again
under the guise of ''rights''.

All these little kids
growing up and thinking they know stuff
they know nothing
and the results show

 

[Sami84]

What's interesting is that the cop and Floyd knew each other well. What's being ignored is how perhaps a personal animus caused him to leave his knee on Floyd's neck. Also, I read that Floyd had a heart condition, so if the knee/situation triggered a heart attack rather than caused asphyxiation.

No rational person wants any kind of racism, and from what I've gathered from listening to black political talk show host Larry Elder, national crime statistics do not show any overall racial bias by police against blacks as opposed to whites. Sure, a much higher percentage of blacks (compared to their percentage of the population) are in prison, but this is because they commit more crimes. This fact isn't racism, but realism. And the right approach to changing this is to change black culture in America from 'hood culture to ethical, individualist, pro-capitalist culture.

I not only listen to Elder, but also Candace Owens and Black Conservative Patriot (BCP) at YouTube They are role models, and I can only hope that they are being successful in converting masses of black Americans away from the toxic (destructive to blacks and black culture) of the left to the positive sociopolitics of the (non-RINO) conservative right if anarchy is just too difficult for people to grasp in totality.

 

[rossihunter2]

Just going to say this. The killing of George Floyd was a heinous crime in every sense of the word, but I can pretty much guarantee this was not some random act of racist police violence/murder. There’s a back story here and I’m willing to bet these guys knew each other and there was bad blood between them well before this incident.

and the rest of the police and the justice system are also culpable - there has still only been 1 officer arrested and he's only been charged with basically manslaughter

it's a system of oppression - this was just the most recent incident and exemplified how those who want to abuse their power as a police officer are enabled and emboldened to do so by a broken justice system where rather than protecting and serving the people the police have become instruments of white supremacy whether by intention or perversion...

 

[rossihunter2]

Sure, a much higher percentage of blacks (compared to their percentage of the population) are in prison, but this is because they commit more crimes.

the way this sentence right here just completely misses the point

 

[Sami84]

we need a color-blind meritocracy, which means equal rights and opportunity for all, but not necessarily equal outcome. The Asians, for example, have an incredible educational and work ethic, which is why they, overall, in America, achieve more financial success than all other races. And they have strong nuclear families, which is what left-wing political programs have destroyed in the black family. In 1960, 80% of American black families were 2-parent families; now that figure is down to under 30%. The Welfare State, which began in the 1960s (under Lyndon Johnson's Great New Society), destroyed the black nuclear family by incentivizing black women to have more and more children sans a husband, because that way they would get more and more welfare money. The end results was the weakening of the black community and culture.

Then Trump gets elected, and (until the Cornoavirus bullshit hit) blacks start doing better than ever financially and job wise. And the insane left still labels him as a fascist racist, which is 180-degrees from the truth. Trump has done nothing racist. He's a true patriot who wants equal right and opportunity for all and economic success for all. And all he gets from the left for promoting the American dream for all, for making America truly great, is hatred from the left.

 

[rossihunter2]

Then why do you need feminism? The last part supersedes any need for a sub-group that takes one demographic and places a philosophy that is based on ALL on one?

These groups have another agenda and it's unbeknownst to most of them because they already have a perverted ideology of what freedom entails. The whole world still to this point doesn't know they're all slaves for the most part.

All these riots are just a waste of time and childish. There is a lack of consciousness in this world.
I'm utterly uninterested in this because I see it for what it really is
a spiral of habitual programming that follows the same routine time and time again
under the guise of ''rights''.

All these little kids
growing up and thinking they know stuff
they know nothing
and the results show

do your research better - dont just regurgitate a bullshit narrative that you're being fed by right wing media

feminism is a advocacy for equality - it's required because women are oppressed on the basis of their gender in the same way that black lives matter (and other civil rights movements) advocate for equality on the basis of skin colour because non-whites are an oppressed group

groups that advocate for equality without affirmative action are by definition passive and no powerful group gives up their power without a struggle (even subconsciously) - to be passive is to be on the side of the oppressor

 

[rossihunter2]

we need a color-blind meritocracy, which means equal rights and opportunity for all, but not necessarily equal outcome. The Asians, for example, have an incredible educational and work ethic, which is why they, overall, in America, achieve more financial success than all other races. And they have strong nuclear families, which is what left-wing political programs have destroyed in the black family. In 1960, 80% of American black families were 2-parent families; now that figure is down to under 30%. The Welfare State, which began in the 1960s (under Lyndon Johnson's Great New Society), destroyed the black nuclear family by incentivizing black women to have more and more children sans a husband, because that way they would get more and more welfare money. The end results was the weakening of the black community and culture.

Then Trump gets elected, and (until the Cornoavirus bullshit hit) blacks start doing better than ever financially and job wise. And the insane left still labels him as a fascist racist, which is 180-degrees from the truth. Trump has done nothing racist. He's a true patriot who wants equal right and opportunity for all and economic success for all. And all he gets from the left for promoting the American dream for all, for making America truly great, is hatred from the left.

stop watching fox news and educate yourself with actual real data and statistics from actual experts in the field that take into account the real history of racism in the USA

 

[Sami84]

Focus on this
The rest will follow
I can play politics
But i'd rather an anarchy based forum