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Sami84

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If your point is still that Ferguson sucks, this really doesn't support it - he DOUBLED the sacks of all but 8 people on that list!

my point is that we suck at evaluating
We chose tyus bowser over carl lawson and that was asinine.
We wanted to trade up for ferguson even though he struggled against better tackles on film and in one on one drills earlier this year.

If you're looking for a za'darius smith replacement he might suffice but if they think he' going to be that guy who gets 9-12 sacks a year then nope. PLayers with that kind of atheltic profile and age and conference simply don't become special players
 

Sami84

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There are two picks I hope im wrong about and will eat crow

Ferguson
Powers

if these two become ballers ( by that i'm not talking about being servicable or meh ala Alex lewis ) I'll be happy as fuck and eat it
 
Yeh I think we all want same thing. Hopefully your doubts are proven wrong on these guys.

Just out of curiosity from a guy who's not watched football all that long, how realistic is it to expect a 3rd/4th round pick to become ballers and not just serviceable? Isn't that what happens mid-draft? Of course there are hits like Yanda, but realistically those are rare, right?
 

Grim

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Yeh I think we all want same thing. Hopefully your doubts are proven wrong on these guys.

Just out of curiosity from a guy who's not watched football all that long, how realistic is it to expect a 3rd/4th round pick to become ballers and not just serviceable? Isn't that what happens mid-draft? Of course there are hits like Yanda, but realistically those are rare, right?
Maybe, maybe not. Depends partly on evaluators, other players, coaches, and prospect for a guy to work out.
 

RavensMania

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There are two picks I hope im wrong about and will eat crow

Ferguson
Powers

if these two become ballers ( by that i'm not talking about being servicable or meh ala Alex lewis ) I'll be happy as fuck and eat it
lol, have you eaten crow on Willis yet. I think not.
 

Oldfaithful

Hall of Famer
well hes done more than tim and tyus. Which all combined is jackshit.
Tim Williams in last years limited action had the same sacks as Willis has had his whole career. Williams has missed games, Willis has played for two entire seasons. Because of Harbaugh's dumbass as well, Tim Williams has played in 17 less games than Willis.

so you're wrong.
 

Sami84

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I have hope for tim williams.

tyus just doesn't have it. I feel tim has an extra gear that tyus doesnt

Harbaugh is just the worst coach for giving young talent a true chance.
 

Oldfaithful

Hall of Famer
I have hope for tim williams.

tyus just doesn't have it. I feel tim has an extra gear that tyus doesnt

Harbaugh is just the worst coach for giving young talent a true chance.
Tyus isn't a pass rusher.

Ozzie said that when we drafted him he should play the SAM backer spot, and he's got skills in coverage. But nope.
 

RavensMania

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well hes done more than tim and tyus. Which all combined is jackshit.
Williis has played more and still only has two sacks. Williams is a much better player and you had Willis in the 1st round. He was the player you wanted the Ravens taking in the first and Bowser isn't a pass rusher
 

Sami84

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we should really be reverting to a 4-3 with the guys we have..a hybrid 4-3 rather than a hybrid 3-4
 

RavensMania

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I have hope for tim williams.

tyus just doesn't have it. I feel tim has an extra gear that tyus doesnt

Harbaugh is just the worst coach for giving young talent a true chance.
I understand where you are coming from from this statement, but it isn't true or else we woudn't have so many UDFA have success on this team.
 

Sami84

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no team runs a pure 4-3 or pure 3-4. We are only in our base 3-4 defense 20% of the time.

20% of the time? that was what i was implying, i know we don't or other teams don't run a pure formation, hence why i said hybrid and its variations. I thought we played it more than that.
 

RavensMania

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20% of the time? that was what i was implying, i know we don't or other teams don't run a pure formation, hence why i said hybrid and its variations. I thought we played it more than that.
even 4-3 teams are in nickel the majority of the time and we are in 2-4 quote often
 
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