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Grim said:
Don’t forget there absence of Marvin Lewis. I still think he was the reason we always had fits against that team.
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Facts. Marvin Lewis was a guy everyone felt should’ve been fired, but when he was there the bengals were competitive in many ways, in the Palmer days their offense was a juggernaut, Cedric benson went from bust to superstar, their defenses in the late 2000s/early 2010s were nothing to sneeze at either. His defenses so often had the PERFECT gameplan for us, pre Torrey Smith days I remember joe consistently playing his worst ball vs their cover 2.
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
Facts. Marvin Lewis was a guy everyone felt should’ve been fired, but when he was there the bengals were competitive in many ways, in the Palmer days their offense was a juggernaut, Cedric benson went from bust to superstar, their defenses in the late 2000s/early 2010s were nothing to sneeze at either. His defenses so often had the PERFECT gameplan for us, pre Torrey Smith days I remember joe consistently playing his worst ball vs their cover 2.
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marvin lewis was uninspiring and seemed soulless by the end of his tenure

but you're 100% right, there was a reason he lasted so long in that awful franchise and he was clearly a good coach all the way to the end (just maybe not such a great talent evaluator - both of players and coaches - those last few years)
 
rossihunter2 said:
marvin lewis was uninspiring and seemed soulless by the end of his tenure

but you're 100% right, there was a reason he lasted so long in that awful franchise and he was clearly a good coach all the way to the end (just maybe not such a great talent evaluator - both of players and coaches - those last few years)
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yeah and im not saying marvin lewis was a particularly good coach, i think he was fairly decent but not much more than that and very flawed, but he always felt like he belonged in the afc north, like he was a figure in the division for sure.
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
I think you’re putting too much stock into the bengals beating ravens teams with late era joe flacco at qb and no wr corps and no OL, and you’re putting too much stock into the bengals beating the Steelers who looked like genuinely the worst team in the league the past month.

also, this ravens team feels different than it did a month ago, after that titans loss I’d have felt the same watching the bengals play, nervous af, but I just don’t see it, this team is focused
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The team has looked better for the most part. Still don't trust the defense against better offenses but we'll see. Think the offense actually shows up this year in the playoffs.
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
yeah and im not saying marvin lewis was a particularly good coach, i think he was fairly decent but not much more than that and very flawed, but he always felt like he belonged in the afc north, like he was a figure in the division for sure.
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tbh I think he was a great coach who just ran out of ideas and got ground down by the end

he was also a miracle worker within that trashfire of a franchise
 
rossihunter2 said:
tbh I think he was a great coach who just ran out of ideas and got ground down by the end

he was also a miracle worker within that trashfire of a franchise
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He had some awful luck. Palmer was looking great then the knee injury. People forget that during that 2010-2015 period, I think, they were constantly banged up going into the postseason. And then the game where everyone blames Burfict, but think it was Bernard who fumbled when they would have been running clock.
 
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JoeyFlex5 said:
Facts. Marvin Lewis was a guy everyone felt should’ve been fired, but when he was there the bengals were competitive in many ways, in the Palmer days their offense was a juggernaut, Cedric benson went from bust to superstar, their defenses in the late 2000s/early 2010s were nothing to sneeze at either. His defenses so often had the PERFECT gameplan for us, pre Torrey Smith days I remember joe consistently playing his worst ball vs their cover 2.
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I don't recall Flacco having a GOOD game against them in Cincy. At best, decent. More times.......trash.
 
redrum52 said:
He had some awful luck. Palmer was looking great then the knee injury. People forget that during that 2010-2015 period, I think, they were constantly banged up going into the postseason. And then the game where everyone blames Burfict, but think it was Bernard who fumbled when they would have been running clock.
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and Dalton looked like an MVP in 2015 until he got injured and they had to turn to AJ Mccarron

that 2015 bengals team was amazingly good and they had the rug pulled out from underneath them
 
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redrum52 said:
The team has looked better for the most part. Still don't trust the defense against better offenses but we'll see. Think the offense actually shows up this year in the playoffs.
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i feel the same, im banking on guys getting healthy come playoffs, campbell has been hobbled and then got hit by covid and hasnt been the same since, maybe hes having lingering effects, maybe its mostly or all the ankle, who knows, but i guess im just foolishly holding out hope for him come playoff time.

also i think the coaches are holding out hope that peters and jimmy come back in the playoffs as well. none of these injuries have been reported as serious or long term things.

if these things dont happen i dont have much faith in us winning beyond the wild card round, and i also think the offense is gonna show up big.
 
rossihunter2 said:
and Dalton looked like an MVP in 2015 until he got injured and they had to turn to AJ Mccarron

that 2015 bengals team was amazingly good and they had the rug pulled out from underneath them
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Fun note: Andy Dalton was traded like 749 times in the forum mock that year, and I ended up with him. He made my roster look really good that year.
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
iirc the 2017 season opener was brilliant, but generally yeah youre right lol
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Unfortunatley I missed that game since I was in a hotel evacuating from the hurricane at that point. I know the defense went crazy but didn't we only put up like 20 points though?
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
Facts. Marvin Lewis was a guy everyone felt should’ve been fired, but when he was there the bengals were competitive in many ways, in the Palmer days their offense was a juggernaut, Cedric benson went from bust to superstar, their defenses in the late 2000s/early 2010s were nothing to sneeze at either. His defenses so often had the PERFECT gameplan for us, pre Torrey Smith days I remember joe consistently playing his worst ball vs their cover 2.
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Jonathan Joseph seemed to average 2 interceptions per Ravens game.

I hope Lewis was the reason for their success. It would bode well for Baltimore. Maybe they can move on from always beating the Ravens and always losing to the Steelers and do a complete 180 so they always beat Pitt.
 
Dom McRaven said:
I don't recall Flacco having a GOOD game against them in Cincy. At best, decent. More times.......trash.
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It's been a minute but I recall Mark Clayton looking like a superstar against the Bengals. Surely some of that happened in Cincy...

Regardless, they have had some bad performances against the Bengals.
 
Dom McRaven said:
Unfortunatley I missed that game since I was in a hotel evacuating from the hurricane at that point. I know the defense went crazy but didn't we only put up like 20 points though?
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I could’ve been wrong, defense definitely dominated but I thought I recalled the offense being incredibly efficient and joe looking good.

on second thought I think I am wrong... pretty sure Danny woodbead did most of the dmg and most of the passing production came from maclin on one play
 
One thing to note: we need to make sure our other receivers not numbered #15 and #89 get involved as well. I still remembered Jessie Bates's comments from the last matchup.......which were factual sadly.
 
Dom McRaven said:
One thing to note: we need to make sure our other receivers not numbered #15 and #89 get involved as well. I still remembered Jessie Bates's comments from the last matchup.......which were factual sadly.
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We also didn’t even bother to run the ball but yeah you’re right, Lamar is getting a little locked in on these guys as of late and it’s worrying, then again a lot of it could be due to just a lack of ability from his targets, his TE2 isn’t even running routes I don’t think, his FB is a DT so he’s not doing any more than a rare flats route, his WR2 is a guy who he’s typically had a poor connection with and typically has had suspect hands, his slot guy is an injured willie Snead, the next slot guy isn’t getting reps really at all...

I’m seeing literally nobody that is gonna demand Lamar’s eye more than the big 2, which means playcalling is gonna have to designate these guys as first reads which means scheming and taking the play designs away from your 2 most dangerous guys.

the one thing I’d like to see is 2-3 more screens and use the backs more in the passing game, we just don’t do it and it’s such a head scratcher.
 
JO_75 said:
We have Spero Dedes & Adam Archuleta calling our game this week. They are sending Romo/Nantz to LA for the Cardinals/Rams game this week. Kevin Harlan/Trent Green is calling the Dolphins/Bills game.
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well maybe Adam Archuletta would like to suit up in an emergency.
 
Simba said:
Fun note: Andy Dalton was traded like 749 times in the forum mock that year, and I ended up with him. He made my roster look really good that year.
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Anton probably traded him 500 of those 749 times.

Can't believe we couldn't get the FM off the ground last year.......of all years.
 
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