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rmcjacket23 said:
Nothing will out-do the Marlon Brown hype I saw on the BR.com boards. It was laughable. In 2013, he had 7 TD catches on 49 receptions. That's a completely unsustainable trajectory. I literally watched dozens of fans telling me that him scoring 15-20 TDs the following season was a foregone conclusion.

He never scored another TD again, and he was out of the league entirely two years later. It is the classic example of why you don't look at a individual stat line for a guy and project his whole career based on it. Especially when it comes to TDs. Even showed them the fact that Calvin Johnson's (arguably) best season, 2012, when he went 122/1,964... he caught only 5 TDs. He had caught 28 the prior two years combined.
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What about Omar Brown?
 
Dom McRaven said:
What about Omar Brown?
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So I guess that a pass, because that was fans just being exceptionally ignorant because he got "blessed" by Ed Reed.

That was a great case study for fans on how ex-players don't make the greatest talent evaluators. Every year we listen to people be like "hey man why not make Ed Reed defensive coordinator or hey man Ed Reed should be a head coach somewhere". Being a great player does NOT, in any way, shape, or form, evolve into you being a great coach or talent evaluator.

Like I can tell you 100% right now that Deion Sanders, who's in coaching and trying to move his way up in coaching, 100% thinks he should be, at a minimum, a Defensive Coordinator in the NFL today. Not in a couple years. Today. He may even think he could be a HC.

And you know why he isn't and likely won't ever be? Because he's not willing to put in the work for it.

The great players are, generally, filthy rich. Deion Sanders is NOT going to be a DB coach for the Ravens, because the DB coach for the Ravens works like 100 hours a week in-season and, quite possibly, doesn't even make $1M a year. Who thinks Deion Sanders is putting in 100 hour work weeks, travel commitments, etc. for 4-5 months for less than $1M a year? I don't.

Look at most head coaching tracts, or even coordinator tracts. It takes many, many, many years of low paying (by NFL standards of course) positional, assistance coaching gigs to elevate yourself to the highest levels.

Look at John Harbaugh:
Did 13 years as various positional coaches at low and mid level D1 college programs.
Did 9 years as a positional coach with the Eagles

That's 22 years of "grunt work" at a half dozen different College and NFL programs.

That's what most HC tracts look like. Some of the younger coordinators and such rose up quickly, but they also spent at least a couple years as positional coaches making dog shit.

Bottom line... just because a great player says a young player may be great doesn't come close to making it so.
 


this is really very worrying

all 5 guys on the 53 have missed time this week and seymour is on covid list too

westry's not playing (per zrebiec)
jimmy's almost definitely not playing
averett's been limited
humphrey and tavon missed almost the entire week with illness...

we've got basically nothing potentially at corner this week
 
rossihunter2 said:


this is really very worrying

all 5 guys on the 53 have missed time this week and seymour is on covid list too

westry's not playing (per zrebiec)
jimmy's almost definitely not playing
averett's been limited
humphrey and tavon missed almost the entire week with illness...

we've got basically nothing potentially at corner this week
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As is tradition...
 
rmcjacket23 said:
Nothing will out-do the Marlon Brown hype I saw on the BR.com boards. It was laughable. In 2013, he had 7 TD catches on 49 receptions. That's a completely unsustainable trajectory. I literally watched dozens of fans telling me that him scoring 15-20 TDs the following season was a foregone conclusion.

He never scored another TD again, and he was out of the league entirely two years later. It is the classic example of why you don't look at a individual stat line for a guy and project his whole career based on it. Especially when it comes to TDs. Even showed them the fact that Calvin Johnson's (arguably) best season, 2012, when he went 122/1,964... he caught only 5 TDs. He had caught 28 the prior two years combined.
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Marlon Brown had me fooled good after that rookie year, I thought he was going to be good
 
rossihunter2 said:


this is really very worrying

all 5 guys on the 53 have missed time this week and seymour is on covid list too

westry's not playing (per zrebiec)
jimmy's almost definitely not playing
averett's been limited
humphrey and tavon missed almost the entire week with illness...

we've got basically nothing potentially at corner this week
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Well pre-Lamar I would never be worried about illnesses, but will see. Still think there's a good shot you'll see Marlon and Tavon out there, and I imagine Averett plays after playing last week and still getting in limited work this week.

Really don't understand Jimmy. I don't know how you go from limited to full to DNP in three straight days without like a setback or something.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
So I guess that a pass, because that was fans just being exceptionally ignorant because he got "blessed" by Ed Reed.

That was a great case study for fans on how ex-players don't make the greatest talent evaluators. Every year we listen to people be like "hey man why not make Ed Reed defensive coordinator or hey man Ed Reed should be a head coach somewhere". Being a great player does NOT, in any way, shape, or form, evolve into you being a great coach or talent evaluator.

Like I can tell you 100% right now that Deion Sanders, who's in coaching and trying to move his way up in coaching, 100% thinks he should be, at a minimum, a Defensive Coordinator in the NFL today. Not in a couple years. Today. He may even think he could be a HC.

And you know why he isn't and likely won't ever be? Because he's not willing to put in the work for it.

The great players are, generally, filthy rich. Deion Sanders is NOT going to be a DB coach for the Ravens, because the DB coach for the Ravens works like 100 hours a week in-season and, quite possibly, doesn't even make $1M a year. Who thinks Deion Sanders is putting in 100 hour work weeks, travel commitments, etc. for 4-5 months for less than $1M a year? I don't.

Look at most head coaching tracts, or even coordinator tracts. It takes many, many, many years of low paying (by NFL standards of course) positional, assistance coaching gigs to elevate yourself to the highest levels.

Look at John Harbaugh:
Did 13 years as various positional coaches at low and mid level D1 college programs.
Did 9 years as a positional coach with the Eagles

That's 22 years of "grunt work" at a half dozen different College and NFL programs.

That's what most HC tracts look like. Some of the younger coordinators and such rose up quickly, but they also spent at least a couple years as positional coaches making dog shit.

Bottom line... just because a great player says a young player may be great doesn't come close to making it so.
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Fun fact, Mike Tomlin, Rex Ryan and John Harbaugh all coached at UC
 
rmcjacket23 said:
Well pre-Lamar I would never be worried about illnesses, but will see. Still think there's a good shot you'll see Marlon and Tavon out there, and I imagine Averett plays after playing last week and still getting in limited work this week.

Really don't understand Jimmy. I don't know how you go from limited to full to DNP in three straight days without like a setback or something.
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Jimmy probably pulled something walking from his car lmao
 
rmcjacket23 said:
Well pre-Lamar I would never be worried about illnesses, but will see. Still think there's a good shot you'll see Marlon and Tavon out there, and I imagine Averett plays after playing last week and still getting in limited work this week.

Really don't understand Jimmy. I don't know how you go from limited to full to DNP in three straight days without like a setback or something.
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unless it's a rest day with jimmy as part of his recovery - but either way would suggest he's not in line to play any time soon
 
rossihunter2 said:
unless it's a rest day with jimmy as part of his recovery - but either way would suggest he's not in line to play any time soon
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That's what I'm thinking a possible rest day, but usually they'd indicate that. Just doesn't make any sense to me.
But then again it sounds like Boyle is going to be out too, and he played last week, so there's that.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
Might want to take a look at our Cornerback injury report. Literally everybody is questionable. Not ideal when facing a pass-heavy team with a good group of receivers.
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Harbaugh played Defensive Back when he was younger... time to see if he still has it lol.
 
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