Strongly disagree with the latter part. Mostly because a) we got Lamar without that haul of picks and b) there's been several QBs drafted since Lamar that teams absolutely can win with, and even a few that I would trade Lamar straight up to get over him.
True, but I was told Lamar needs several stud weapons to succeed, so you need to find a way to get those guys. And I was also told they need to be "proven" talent also, not just draft picks.
Lol is this supposed to be a sick burn or something?
sad bu true.
It was a hypothetical. I would not give Lamar any more than 60-70 percent fully guaranteed money . Period. Let him walk and give him a couple of these on his way to Atlanta :
I would fully guarantee it, but give him 40m a year, if he would accept that.
I mean Kyler got ~80% gtd, so that's realistically where he needs to be.
I doubt he would. Just depends on how long the contract is.
How much is enough for Lamar? Don't you wanna leave some money for high caliber free agents and help the team? Isn't that what Tom Brady did, take less to get some help?
no it wouldn't. It's all about the structure of the contract.
lol, no, they wouldn't. Why do you think the 2001 team was the end of it? Because everybody wanted to get paid and a bunch of them left.
still worth a shot at it, tho
The problem with your assessment is that athletes like Lamar and MJ only come along once in a lifetime. You may not agree, but having seen both players play live and in person, I've felt the charisma and watchability quotient of these two. Identical. Talent. Identical ( in that they can do things other athletic peers cannot do). Career curve? MJ had the same winning issues in the playoffs as Lamar till he got the help he needed (Pippen and Co.) Lamar doesn't have squat in terms of receivers, period. Give him Diggs, Hopkins, or Hill, and then get out of the way. He will lose games like a hibernating bear loses sleep. Don't argue with me on this because you haven't experienced what I have. Why else would I have adopted Lamar so readily and comprehensively, eh?
I mean athleticism is wonderful, but that doesn't translate into winning. Michael Vick was a transcendent athlete. So was Cam Newton.
A shot at what? Offending him?
Again, you dilute and conflate my assessment by bringing up Vick and Newton, who aren't in the same league as Lamar. As for the money, nobody gives a shit how a team figures out its salary cap. Just give the QB the help he needs like other teams manage to do. The Rams did it in LA with a collection of names for the ages and that resulted in the Lombardi trophy. So, stop being condescending and argumentative for no reason other than to be condescending and argumentative.
Well actually I don't know that Lamar is in the league of those guys yet, since they did it for longer than Lamar did.
Bills? they were last year, at least, and Chiefs? they have a pretty darn good array of weapons.
He at least won a playoff game and if they can add a skill player or two he's worth keeping. Oh and he plays a full year, not 2/3's of one. I think the Giants appear to be on a good trajectory and Jones played well enough to be worth consideration...but he"ll never get what Lamar is asking, not sure Lamar will.
