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Lamar Jackson

Thezone27 said:
Bills? they were last year, at least, and Chiefs? they have a pretty darn good array of weapons.
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The Bills have no running game, no quality receivers behind Diggs, and an average Oline.
Who are the good weapons playing for the Chiefs this year? Do people really think MVS and Juju are like high-quality receivers in this league still? MVS has put up pedestrian numbers, in high passing volume offenses, his entire career, catching passes from 2 HOF QBs.

Like if the benchmark is " better than the Ravens WRs", cool. That's not the benchmark for anything. The Jets have more offensive talent at WR than the Chiefs do. As do plenty of other teams.

If Bateman, Duvernay, and Andrews were healthy, I'd take that trio over Kelce and literally any two WRs you want to pick off the Chiefs. And Mahomes would trade any two for those two in heart beat also. And Duvernay isn't special.
 
Michael M. said:
He at least won a playoff game and if they can add a skill player or two he's worth keeping. Oh and he plays a full year, not 2/3's of one. I think the Giants appear to be on a good trajectory and Jones played well enough to be worth consideration...but he"ll never get what Lamar is asking, not sure Lamar will.
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Well to be fair, I'm no Daniel Jones fan, and I'm not convinced the Giants will keep him long term. But he's a franchise tag candidate this year, which means he'll make $31M or so. Possibly more if they give him a short term extension.

At that price tag, I'd be out on Jones. The Giants are well coached and "try hard", but they've got a decent chance of losing Wink in the next year or two, they need massive upgrades at pass catchers on the offense, and their defense is really pretty average. They're several rungs below the 49ers, Eagles, even Cowboys of the world in terms of contenders in the NFC.
They're a major regression candidate for me in 2023. The only benefit they have is how watered down the NFC is. I don't think they're really any better or worse than Pittsburgh was last year, but they had a softer schedule.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
As for the $, smart people care. Smart people don't want to win one and then suck for the next several years, like the Rams are and will continue to do.
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Disagree, its worth it. The Ravens long term model is an illusion of success, were one of the worst in terms of playoff efficiency/ success the last ten years.
 
BoredMarine13 said:
Disagree, its worth it. The Ravens long term model is an illusion of success, were one of the worst in terms of playoff efficiency/ success the last ten years.
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Sure, but how about the 5 years before that? Or the 10 years before that?

Long term model is predicated on high-end QB play. We've basically had that for maybe 4 years of the last 10, at most.
 
Don’t really have time to scroll through hundreds of posts, but did you hear what ESPN reported? Lamar and team are 100M guaranteed money away from a deal
 
Sizzle said:
Don’t really have time to scroll through hundreds of posts, but did you hear what ESPN reported? Lamar and team are 100M guaranteed money away from a deal
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RavensMania said:
fowlers a click bait artist. I don't buy this at all
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Not hard to see where he came up with the $100M from.
Latest "reported" offer was $133M gtd for Lamar. Watson is getting $230M gtd.

He assumes the latest offer was accurate, and he assumes Lamar wants at least what Watson got.

Hence, the $100M. Hence it also being wrong, of course, but that's the "news" for ya in 2023.
 
rmcjacket23 said:
The Bills have no running game, no quality receivers behind Diggs, and an average Oline.
Who are the good weapons playing for the Chiefs this year? Do people really think MVS and Juju are like high-quality receivers in this league still? MVS has put up pedestrian numbers, in high passing volume offenses, his entire career, catching passes from 2 HOF QBs.

Like if the benchmark is " better than the Ravens WRs", cool. That's not the benchmark for anything. The Jets have more offensive talent at WR than the Chiefs do. As do plenty of other teams.

If Bateman, Duvernay, and Andrews were healthy, I'd take that trio over Kelce and literally any two WRs you want to pick off the Chiefs. And Mahomes would trade any two for those two in heart beat also. And Duvernay isn't special.
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Naw.. id take juju kelce and toney over anything that involves duv.. kc dnt have great weapons and imo, they never did but no way id put duv on my team over anyone lol
 
rmcjacket23 said:
Not hard to see where he came up with the $100M from.
Latest "reported" offer was $133M gtd for Lamar. Watson is getting $230M gtd.

He assumes the latest offer was accurate, and he assumes Lamar wants at least what Watson got.

Hence, the $100M. Hence it also being wrong, of course, but that's the "news" for ya in 2023.
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It was literally also reported by ESPN. Very sorry for posting something from their website
 
You know what, now I know why I stopped caring about this thread. People are going to be biased so much either way that they’ll go after someone reporting something they saw from ESPN. It’s complete bullshit how things are but I guess that’s what we’ve come to
 
Sizzle said:
You know what, now I know why I stopped caring about this thread. People are going to be biased so much either way that they’ll go after someone reporting something they saw from ESPN. It’s complete bullshit how things are but I guess that’s what we’ve come to
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All you have to do is "look into it" and you would understand what we are saying to you.
 
Sizzle said:
You know what, now I know why I stopped caring about this thread. People are going to be biased so much either way that they’ll go after someone reporting something they saw from ESPN. It’s complete bullshit how things are but I guess that’s what we’ve come to
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can you blame us? ESPN is the CNN of sports
 
Sizzle said:
You know what, now I know why I stopped caring about this thread. People are going to be biased so much either way that they’ll go after someone reporting something they saw from ESPN. It’s complete bullshit how things are but I guess that’s what we’ve come to
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CBS sports, baby!!!
 
Sizzle said:
Well my bad for not diving deep into ESPN related news
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Lamar Jackson is one of the biggest names in the NFL and ESPN like any other sports news media knows this. I understand why you wouldn't look into it from ESPN because...well....its ESPN. There's an assumption there given the brand.

Naturally they are gong to try and talk about the contract situation as much as possible. Lamar Jackson news at this point is borderline click bait.

The report is based on an assumption made from another report that is an assumption

LMFAO
 
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